(05-14-2020, 07:14 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:(05-13-2020, 05:44 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(05-13-2020, 01:38 PM)David Horn Wrote:In my opinion, a sense of mutual respect and commonality are needed to achieve/gain equality among peers. You're the kings of equality. What constitutes equality in your opinion? MLK and his followers were willing to earn/gain equality the American way. So, what do you think about liberals who continue teaching minorities that their inferior to them as their calling whites racists and blaming issues related to them on racism? Do you thinks that's OK and think it should continue being taught by the left? I happen to think you're all racists and view minorities as their servants and their means to remain in power these days. I have faith in my peers to begin figuring that out and begin to distance themselves from the Democratic party.(05-13-2020, 01:21 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: We know what you've been teaching them, we hear it from them all the time and we are threatened to be sued by them all the time. I agree with what JFK said too, which is why the American libertarians are going to cripple you politically and end your reign and force them to accept equality or get the fuck out of here.
What constitutes your idea of equality?
Perhaps it is time for the perspective of someone who is a racial minority. I suggest myself.
I think in this instance that Classic and the Blue Boomer Libtards on this board want essentially the same thing. The problem is that the Libtards being both Boomers and thus stuck in a time warp that is at least 20 years out of date and being tarded...hence why I call them Libtards...fail to see their own racial bigotry.
I may be twenty or more years behind the times on technology and pop culture. Technology that I see goes mostly into entertainment, and entertainment is for people who have nothing better to do. Pop culture? I largely outgrew it when I was in my teens.
Human nature seems to change far more slowly, which explains why Plato and Freud could both offer a tripartite division of human nature, why (with reservations) the ancient moral wisdom is mostly valid, and the normal rules of getting along with people usually remain valid. There are people to avoid, and I well know that for some people I am one of them. But yes, such a word as "libtard" is not the sort of word that you want to say if you don't want the door slamming on your face as if you are a cold-calling door-to-door salesman selling meat to a vegetarian.
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Indeed as a black person I have found nothing more racist than what George W. Bush called the "soft bigotry of low expectations". The problem among black people these days is not that they are barred from university or employment or even financial assistance. Rather the problem is that a certain proportion of those things is reserved especially for them. Furthermore, those blacks that get those reserved spots are often the scions of the black bourgeoisie and their taking of those spots (which if we do not adhere to the idea that someone is black therefore they must be incapable of obtaining said education [or whatever] without a set aside) means that they are taking a spot that ideally was intended to be taken up by someone of a lower economic station regardless their race.
In my experience we white middle class types do practically nothing for poor whites. We often ridicule poor whites especially from the Mountain South and related areas as "hillbillies", "peckerwoods", "crackers", "rednecks"... I have never experienced that myself, so I don't know how it feels. The black bourgeoisie does far more for poor blacks who show promise. But know well: the black bourgeoisie does as well as possible at preparing their kids to be chips off the old block. That is no different than skilled workers edging their kids toward the skilled trades.
It is up to parents, irrespective of origin, to promote learning among their children and to insist upon maximal rigor in K-12 education
There is not and has never been a classless society. Almost everyone who has a soft life wants his kids to get much the same. Did you think that the Soviet nomenklatura wanted its kids to work in a factory or on a collective farm?
Quote:The racial politics coming from the left for decades has been that blacks and other persons of color are incapable of obtaining education, job opportunities and even loans without crumb handouts from the Democratic party. Anyone who actually thinks about this for more than five seconds actually realizes what this left is saying, and it rings loud and clear for someone is very conscious of his racial identity. The Democrats have said and been saying since the 1960s at least "Because you are a Nigger, you need thus and so hand out from us and we of course need your vote. Something for something, because we understand your ignorant nigger ass could never understand how to look up the Latin Quid Pro Quo."
Of course we all know the loving kindness that the Hard Right has for the poor in a society in which owners, executives, landlords, shysters, and loansharks are the kings. The Hard Rights treats all low proles badly irrespective of ethnicity and religion. We have a President who ridicules learning. This said, if social mobility no longer exists, then learning is strictly an elite practice that must price out multitudes.
Quote:Given the choice between that, and the Klan, I'll take the Klan any day of the week. Their racism is naked and understood by even the most ignorant of persons. Conversely the Soft Bigotry requires thought and reading between the lines.
NO YOU WON'T!
I see the Klan as the sort of people who would make America much like Nazi Germany if it had the chance -- complete with torture chambers and concentration camps. Klan ideology, including its objects of hatred, are practically the same as those of the Nazis. Klan groups have bombed and lynched.
Quote:Then again one shouldn't expect anything else from a Party founded on the principles of exterminating Native Americans and enslaving Black Americans. I believe Dinesh D'souza made a film about it. I highly recommend it.
In lieu of that film I offer this:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?449302-3/w...party-race
The Republican Party used to be the party of deep thinkers with moral agendas. Now it is a Party of self-righteous people out for themselves alone. The Democratic Party used to be associated with "Rum, Rebellion, and Romanism" as late as the 1932 election. The Democratic Party has kept unionized workers and ethnic and religious (Mormons excluded) minorities, but it has gained the well-honed minds (what used to be "Rockefeller Republicans" while losing the old Southern agrarian interests. That is so much so that aside from Jews, blacks, and unionized workers sticking with Democrats and ranch interests staying Republican, the demographics of Eisenhower voters and Obama voters are much the same. Do you remember my beloved overlay of Eisenhower and Obama elections? It helps that the two are similar in temperament and that both were paragons of integrity in office.
Trump, like most hustlers, is an expert at telling people what they want to hear. I know what I want to hear; it might not be what I need to hear.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.