05-18-2020, 11:54 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-19-2020, 12:14 AM by Eric the Green.)
(05-18-2020, 11:38 PM)Mickey123 Wrote:(05-18-2020, 06:15 AM)David Horn Wrote: The shelter-in-place policy was intended to slow the spread, not eliminate it. Places that moved fast, like South Korea, Australia and New Zealand, managed to use isolation to actually bring the virus as close to zero as possible, assuming no foreign traveler brings it back. In the US, the primary focus was our healthcare system that was being overrun by new cases -- just like Italy.
And let's admit it: living in NYC or any other highly dense city, makes addressing a pandemic that infects so readily a nearly impossible goal to achieve.
The whole world woke up and realized that the shit was hitting the fan at about the same time.
The reason why Australia and New Zealand were able to stop the virus so effectively is that when everyone figured out what was going on, they had very few cases. By this time, the U.S. already had far too many cases for containment to be possible. In addition, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control completely fucked up and sent out non-working coronavirus test kits all over the country. By the time everyone figured out they didn't work and sent them all back and managed to get new ones, the disease was already everywhere.
The U.S. didn't do anything wrong (other than the test kit screwup), it just has too many people and got hit too hard too fast.
No, the USA (Trump) did wrong. He didn't "figure out what was going on" because he actively denied it for over a month. People who deny or cover up this mistake only want to see Trump re-elected. He deserves to be thrown out on his ear in Nov.2020 and then put in jail for life. New Zealand, Australia and South Korea contained the virus earlier because they never denied it and took action quickly on a national basis, whereas Trump leaves everything to the governors, the UK under Trump-clone Johnson tried herd immunity (and got sick), and Brazil's Trump-clone leader said athletes like him would not get the disease.
San Francisco is as dense as New York, but contained the virus much better. Travellers home from China were quarantined. Meanwhile Trump was saying the virus was a hoax or would just go away while tourists flocked home to the eastern seaboard from Europe on airplanes and brought the virus home before anything could be done.
New Jersey, Florida and Southern California are seeing a rise in new cases because people are flocking to beaches and ignoring social distancing. We could see more new cases in these places in coming weeks.