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Why we are nowhere near the end of the fourth turning
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(06-09-2020, 01:29 PM)Mickey123 Wrote: The goal of the BLM movement is "have the police and courts be more respectful of us while they are arresting us for our crimes". 

Your quote is part of the problem.  You are assuming blacks commit crimes.  You are not assuming the police should be nice to the pubic.  If you continue to view blacks as criminals, if you continue to thing police should not be nice to the general law abiding community, you are missing the point entirely.

Cuomo in his daily briefing express the idea that the relationship between police and public has to be based on both sides trusting the other.  This doesn’t happen when the public view the police as oppressors and the police view the people as someone to kill.  Something has to create this trust.  The low level city and town governments are the nominated people responsible, though the House is proposing their part.  Namely, laws have to be put in place to punish the police who envision continued business as usual violence and racism against the public.  With this, perhaps the public will begin to trust the police.  Still, as with the American Civil War and Civil Rights Movement, you should not expect it to happen instantly.  It took years in those cases.  During that time either violence or protests ran rampant.  But the result was a change in the culture.  The result was that which had existed for a long time was changed.

If both what the Milwaukee city council proposed and the House proposal become reality, if the habit of militarizing the police and treating the people as the enemy is broken, the issue is apt to be put on the back burner for a time.  Racism will not be completely solved.  If the issues of militant policing are resolved, if 911 is briefed to call a reasonably funded marriage counselor or a  mental health professional instead of a man with a gun and a swagger, after a two generation or four the next set of issues of discrimination will be confronted.

But if you consider the relationship between police and community can be based on mutual distrust and racism, you are part of the problem.

The people who are renting my other property got into such a mess, though racism is not playing a big part.  A lawyer declared my tennant dead, which resulted in such things as DNA testing to establish who really got the inheritance.  The lawyer was friendly with a group which contained drug pushers, prostitutes, bad cops, and an employee of Social Security who habitually turned off health care and other services.  The bad cops faked 911 calls in order to do warrantless searches.  They got in the habit of making traffic stops, the latest of which was out of the stopping cop's jurisdiction.

So I am quite familiar with the existence of bad cops.  There are also good ones.  It is not just a matter of making the good cops have authority over the bad ones.  The blue wall of silence that makes all cops stick together is stronger than the desire of the good cops to suppress the bad.

This seems to be a significant problem in many urban areas as well.  Requiring everybody to report abuse or be targeted by a special prosecutor hunting for abuse is part of the solution.
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RE: Why we are nowhere near the end of the fourth turning - by Bob Butler 54 - 06-09-2020, 03:31 PM

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