The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(06-16-2020, 10:55 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(06-16-2020, 03:35 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: You continue to exaggerate the blue violence, when it's mostly over, and you continue not to disapprove of and to excuse the treatment of George Floyd. There have been a few murdered police these days, mostly be people angry at the police, but blue governments continue to prosecute these murders. You continue to deny that you are a racist, when it is mostly blacks whom you accuse of violence, and whites whom you excuse for rampant police brutality against blacks. And the "America" that you defend and believe in is manifestly a white America, and it's an "America" that does not include all of America (North and South America).

I suspect it will be the red side that will initiate the violence, once a blue government takes over again. At that point, it will be your violence that will be met with the violence of the state, and it may not be pretty. It's up to you guys.

I'm not exaggerating, what I stated occurred. Are you dumb enough to deny it? You can sugar coat it if you want but that isn't going to change our opinion of those who participated in the crime.  Do you really think Minneapolis is going to survive a billion dollar disaster caused by a bunch of liberal dumb fuckers associated with the Left.  No big deal for the clueless liberals and you've got plenty of them too.

No. Derek Chauvin, politics not shown to America as a whole (which is probably best), suffocating a helpless man by kneeling on his throat. That may constitute a crime (which is for the courts, and not for me, to decide) . Maybe it was his personality or his inadequate training... or the spinelessness of fellow police... that allowed George Floyd to die a pointless death that has spurred rallies.

But let us not forget another disaster, one that has cost about 120 thousand American lives alone: COVID-19, which our current President has botched badly. Figuring that such a death costs a few thousand dollars each... COVID-19 is not cheap even if one survives it... $9000 per death alone creates a billion-dollar calamity.  

Quote:I haven't seen a tape of the entire incident. I've seen the beginning and the end and a few camera shots of what took place in between. I don't know enough about the case to have a firm opinion at this point.

I haven't seen it all; I need not. I have watched recorded executions (mostly of Nazi war criminals and Holocaust perpetrators and of Satan Hussein and Nicolae and Elena Ceausescu... and I did see images of the corpses of Benito Mussolini and some of his associates strung up head down as one recalls from some depictions of the damned in Dante's Inferno (nice style, Italian partisans... you read your Dante and it shows!)... OK, the hanging of Karl Hermann Frank (Nazi overlord of the Czech parts of occupied Czechoslovakia) is gentle compared to what he ordered for the villages of Lezaky and Lidice. I have no empathy for serial mass killers, the worst of the worst. 

I really have no desire to see George Floyd die. Do you? Judgment is rightly left to courts of law. We will never know whether George Floyd did something to merit arrest because the police failed to do their job, part of which is to deliver someone arrested safely for trial by the legal process. Such is my interpretation.

Quote:I'm sorry, I don't have a major stake in Black Lives Matter or the black vote.

Bad things happen to people who either have no vote (think of people who lived under the thrall of Karl Hermann Frank) or can vote but only with a prescribed choice that ratifies what the leaders endorse (as with Satan Hussein or "Draculescu"). In a liberal community such as Minneapolis such is incredibly shocking.

Quote:It didn't look good and I doubt the cop will walk being his knee was clearly on the back of his neck. As far as I'm concerned, it's in the hands of the courts. Me, I'm going wait for the results of trial at this point. I'm pretty sure there will be a day by day account of the trail on all our local news channels.

I concur with this. Of course there will need to be reforms of police procedures so that a criminal suspect such as George Floyd can be safely hauled off to the legal system to judge his conduct for criminal fault.

Quote:No, whether we go to war or not is pretty much up to you guys. You see, we aren't going to go to war with an American state. You to dumb to get that but that's normal.

We do not need war. And, yes, black lives must matter in America. The ancestors of some of us white people brought the African ancestors of most blacks to America to be super-cheap labor with no rights to toil for the power, indulgence, and gain of the plantation owners. Black lives are no less human than my 'white life'. I don't often think of what it means to be white. But this said, I wish that there had been an equivalent of "Black Lives Matter" in Hitlerland, one best translated as "Jewish Lives Matter".