The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Classic-Xer]

(06-24-2020, 05:03 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Classic Xer's racism comes out in statements like "one of us" (meaning white people) and his statements about whom he doesn't want to support with his taxes, whom he wants to keep out of the country, and so forth. But it's mostly that he does not care about any of the concerns of the people whom he calls the Left, and does not care about what happens to black "dudes" murdered by the cops. As for his "rights" to be defended by guns if necessary, it is only the guns themselves that he is concerned about defending his "rights" to. People like me on the Left don't care too much about those rights. We are willing to compromise on the issue, but people like Classic are not.

Classic's description about where "America" is right now is not far wrong. The Left may not be as powerful or popular as the Left thinks it is. Some on the Left are all in a tizzy that their candidate didn't win, and conclude the system is rigged. But Classic may not be correct entirely, because that "one quarter that cling to the working class party" are becoming more and more in agreement with the Left's agenda. He does not see his own racism in the mirror, even if it's only a tinge. Nor does he see that race still divides the country, just as it divides himself off from the Left. But Reaganomics is enthusiastically embraced by his half of the country (which may be dwindling down to about 40% these days), and Reaganomics is actually racist. Reagan began his campaign the same way as Trump just did, by starting it in a place where blacks were slaughtered. Reaganomics is built on resentment about paying taxes to help the poor, and the poor that they see their taxes go to are mostly non-white. Rather than come out and say they want to keep blacks and hispanics in their place, his side elects politicians who keep them in their place by promising to lower their taxes and who refuse to make any changes that might open up society to more advancement by blacks, or allow immigrants into the country who they think might compete with them, and who might degrade or "destroy" their society or make it less comfortable for them by making it less white.

Black on black crime is a real problem, I admit. There have been abortions and one parent families. Welfare mothers are used as a giant scapegoat by Reagan/Bush/Trump. It's not the problem they say it is, nor is immigration, but it makes a good target for politicians like Trump who stoke hatred and fear to get votes. Blacks do need to better educate and support their own. But it has been hard to rise above 400 years of slavery, discrimination and lynchings, and education is not well funded in poor areas. Of course we do hear about cops being killed too, and people in deep blue Santa Cruz CA flock to ceremonies to honor one in the midst of a pandemic, one who was killed by one of their own who got mixed up with the boogaloo boys.

What the conservatives like Classic flatly refuse to see or admit, to their own peril, is that we all rise or fall together. He might want to separate his half of the country off so he doesn't have to pay more taxes and can keep all his semi-machine guns, and better keep the immigrants out, and we on the other side may want to separate so the other side doesn't keep us on course to return to the Dark Ages. But the fact is, when the government supports and keeps people from falling into poverty because of discrimination and greed by the bosses who fire them and don't pay them well and pollute their town, and supports what works best when all the people pay for it, then business prospers because it has more customers. When government doesn't do this, then those few who benefit from the lower taxes and regulations grab up all the wealth, and economic and political power concentrates while the needs and real rights of the people are neglected. That's what has happened in the USA for 40 years. The middle class is shrinking and poverty is increasing. Some people like Classic don't feel the effects too much, so they don't realize what is happening to the nation they claim to love so much. But others do.

So we have a decision to make this decade. Do we separate, and allow one half to progress and the other to wallow in its delusions? Or do enough people see the problem with a Party and a leader who doesn't care about anything but its own power, to vote it out for good and restart the progress that was cut short in 1980?

Interestingly, most of the richest people who benefit from Reaganomics live in blue states. They know a good thing, and have the money to buy it. If red and blue states (and counties, probably) separate, the rich will have their wings clipped severely unless they move to red states and live in the fields of Nebraska instead of in penthouses with ocean views. Will they be able to navigate this situation, I wonder?

It's funny, as far as I know, you are "one of us" too. I don't care if you end up being the poor white that they've been taught to hate. Like I said, you're the dead man and how they do it ain't going to matter to me. I'm sure that there are readers and posters who are "one of us", "one of them", "one of those" , "one of something else" or a mixture of races.  So, why are you so selective and so ignorant about context that "one of us" was used. Gee..even a low education person like myself is educated enough to identify context. Maybe, part of the problem is with us giving the self proclaimed/supposed/ so called higher educated side to much credit these days. Why are you to dumb to realize what you're really doing is wrong? 

Yes. The middle class was shrinking while the Democrats did little to nothing about it for last forty years. Is that our problem or a Democratic problem? Is flooding cities with more poor from every where for whatever reason our problem or another Democratic problem? Is the upper end " White Yuppi" Woke culture strumming it's nose and bad mouthing traditional American culture our problem or a Democratic problem too?

I'm going to tell something about real racists that you don't seem to grasp, the real racists will tell you that they're racists to your face regardless of their race. Personally, I could could give to shits less if Democratic America ends 70% minority and 30% privileged white and minority with the bulk of it's people being poor and living like peasants. That seems to be what the Democratic party really wants and prefers for itself these days. The Democratic seems to prefer powerless blacks remain powerless blacks with the exception of those they pick for higher office or the powerless blacks pick to represent them in the Democratic Congress that refer to themselves as the Black Caucus these days. Yes. If America were to split there will be financial repercussions and losses that will be felt and experienced by both sides initially or long term. Personally, I believe America could cut bait with the Left come out in relatively good shape and quickly rise and become a much more powerful and tighter knit country than it is today. We already know what's going to happen with the Left and it ain't going to be pretty or a decent place for Americans to live and raise Americans.