The Next Warrior Age - Right Under Our Noses?

[David Horn]

(06-24-2020, 06:16 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(06-24-2020, 02:34 PM)User3451 Wrote:

(06-24-2020, 11:37 AM)Isoko Wrote: I have always said that the future of the West is basically Putinism at its core. Liberal democracies have now become plutocracies and are now entering the age of Caesarism, as so aptly pointed out by Spengler. Which is basically Putinism. A strong government or leader that essentially reigns for several decades, establishing strong Conservative rule that usually gets the economy back on track, solves the anti-social disorder crisis and brings safety back onto the streets. I think for the West it is inevitable but the question remains first - will the West collapse like the Soviet Union did before Putinism starts to take hold or will the system snugly evolve into it?

If the current moment of anti classical liberalism wins out in this 4T, we will likely move toward a 1T with some sort of Politburo ruled by self appointed white savior's and certain portions of the most oppressed members of society, or more likely

The mob is coming for conservative culture but won't stop when they move into and beyond liberalism. We would go full third world

The nytimes has already been coopted, and the same thing could happen everywhere

f Trump wins then I could see a Putin style plutocracy emerge

You are missing a few things.  In the US, where the conservative rural party has the advantage though most turnings, enough real problems build up that the new values take firm hold over the old for a time.  The old values, be it adherence to kings, slaveholding, dictators or racism never really recovers.  Also, there is a tendency towards ‘a new birth of freedom’.  This time around, police racism seems to be the primary target, but it likely won’t end there.

I do not doubt that we will see a strong government for a few years.  The crisis will be handled.  The people will accept that loyalty to the community sometime overwhelms hedonism.  No matter how much joy one gets from not wearing a mask, other’s lives just might count for more.   Those who think otherwise will be shamed into submission.  Did I mention that the crisis would be handled?  This will not be forever, but it will be for long enough.

Yes, The NY Times has seen it early, as did the abolitionists in their time, and certain patriot publishers in theirs.  If you have not really got to know the new perspective, one ought to.  It is apt to hit like a ton of bricks.  Um, I don’t think you ought to resist.  You are apt to get assimilated.

Good reference to the Borg, which, thankfully, will not happen here.  It's not the case that we Americans are so high and mighty that we're immune to dictators and oligarchs.  It's really structural.  4 years of rule by a nut job is insufficient to kill our institutions entirely.  Suppress them? Yes, Trump's done that, but only that.  The Deep State exists, and you may wish to thank your chosen god for that.  Non-governmental institutions are also stronger than they appear, and for the same reason.

If this middle state between democracy and dictatorship continues for 15 - 20 years, worry then ... a lot!  Until then, we're making things worse before they can get better.  It's the American way.