The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(06-23-2020, 10:41 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I don't have the right to destroy public or private property that upsets me or the right to rob people and loot stores or the to block off/shut down a freeway system and so forth like other law abiding people who live in this country. I don't have a problem with free speech or a problem with peaceful protests or a problem watching a bunch of Democratic women walking around and looking silly with pink vaginas hats on their heads and acting like all their American rights were taken away or acting like they're all some how or another being oppressed.

Nobody is asking for the right to destroy public or private property. Tearing down the statues of people associated with a discredited regime 




The statue was of Josef Stalin...this is Hungary in 1956... all that remains is his boots. I think we can all excuse that, can't we? It's hard to determine whether the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 was "left" or "right"

Likewise this:

 

Technically this too is the destruction of  public property. The statue being destroyed is of Satan Hussein, who ironically admired Stalin as a model of how to organize society. 

Quote:You (taramarie) don't seem to know much about the US or the growing political divide here. Covid19 didn't bring us together and the latest thingy that happened in my state isn't going to bring us together after (what) went on during and afterwards and is still going on in some places today's. You see, about half the country are done with the Left and their Democrats all together, about a quarter of it are stilling clinging to a working class party that no longer exists and about a quarter of it are done with the country, hate the countr  for whatever reason and want to destroy it and start over from scratch. It's not racism that's dividing us these days.

The political divide has been going on for some time, and the Hard Right has largely created and stoked it. The Hard Right has practically destroyed the more humanistic conservatism that most of us used to know if we are old enough. The Hard Right has been playing up ethnic and religious divisions in an effort to divide the working classes so that there be no meaningful and effective opposition to the imposition of a pure plutocracy that well serves entrenched elites and exploits everyone else. 

If one is black one has every right to see Confederate military and political leaders as unmitigated evil. Maybe not as evil as Nazis who came close to annihilating people for a religious heritage... take note that Nazi-era statues of Nazi political figures were demolished and often disposed of in trash heaps along with the rubble of war after the Allied liberation of a German city or town. 

We are of course free to loathe those people who in economic or political power see the rest of Humanity, including fellow Americans, solely as the means of achieving their power, indulgence, and gain. Economic inequality to the extent that it encourages people to develop and use valuable skills, adapt to market realities, eschew waste, and of course do productive work, is necessary for the smooth functioning of capitalism. If solely to enrich and pamper a corrupt and cruel elite, then such inequality is destructive of human qualities. 

Capitalism without human values is as vile as feudalism, fascism, and Commie rule. 

Quote:I (patronizing treatment of submissive blacks while endorsing police brutality, complete with profanity)  In America, white cops killing black dudes makes big drama and increases rating. It's funny, in the liberal world, blacks can kill each other by the thousands and abort each other by the millions but if a white cop happens to kill one we all have to know about it and the world has to know about it too. But, we don't know or hear a damn thing when a Hispanic cop or an Asian cop or a black cop kills one them. one of their own  or one of us or a criminal kills a cop. As far as violence, I will resort to violence like most people and I've made that clear to liberals with dreams of grandeur that include fundamentally changing the United States.

Should fugitives try to shoot it out with police and get killed, then nobody cares about the identity of the crooks. Contrary to your myth, cop killers have no support in any community (aside from the misguided sympathy for Mumia abu-Jamal.... but he has done much of the cheerleading on his behalf, and prominent people have lapped it up. 

We liberals do not want violence. We want resolution in favor of justice and equity. Donald Trump is an intransigent barrier to such, and he goes down on November 3. Take heed, Classic X'er; your state will disappoint you as a quick call for Joe Biden.