The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Classic-Xer]

(07-05-2020, 02:27 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(07-05-2020, 02:11 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(07-03-2020, 03:29 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(07-03-2020, 02:04 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(07-01-2020, 12:53 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: You still do not define "American values and rights," which proves that you don't know what these are. Of course, we know you think we have a right to bear arms. If that's all you are concerned about, then you can go to the OK Corale and have your fun, and I don't care.

You refer to a cultural clash now too, but you do not define the cultures that are clashing.

One's ancestry still matters if one is still discriminated against on that basis, which is still the case. But slavery is not legal, and those who fought and were heroes in WWII were not fighting for slavery. They were not traitors. 

But you support venerating and memorializing traitors who set up a new country and made war on and invaded the United States in order protect slavery. That makes you complicit in their fight.

You are on the wrong side of history and seem to be deaf, dumb and blind too. So, I hope you have fun trying to survive an ugly 4T.

We have the right to bear arms and value our guns too. So, there's a good example of the American rights and values that I'm talking about that people like you don't seem to recognize or understand they're direct relationship to you as an American citizen these days.

Yeah, I know, and you don't seem to realize how little these so-called rights mean to people like me, and how ludicrous it is to think that guns have any relationship at all our rights as American citizens.

Quote:Oh that's right, you've already let go of them and embraced global citizenship and whatever values are imposed and rights eliminated by global institutions and foreign powers.  I'm concerned about all our rights as citizens and all our advancement as a nation today. I view today's Left as being a direct threat to both these days. Right now, the folks who are at greatest risk are the more conservative Democratic population of Americans who are being targeted and persecuted by those on your side right now. Like I said, your shitty mobs, leftist groups and clueless/ powerless politicians better be really careful and start showing all of us something valuable about them that's worth keeping or they're going to find themselves being lumped in with the mobs and leftist groups that we see targeting, terrorizing and bullying American people/voters that we know today. So, how many 2nd Amendment deniers among the Democratic are 2nd Amendment believers/ supporters today. How many knee jerk Democrats who went along for years are waking up and seeing the direct threat to them and their communities that we are seeing today. I'm much better prepared and more naturally suited to survive an ugly 4t. I've been openly communicating, showing you and proving to you that for many years now.

You should read more of brower's essays, and learn what terms really mean.

I don't plan to show you anything that you would find valuable. I expect many of us Democrats would feel the same. You have proven only that all you value is violence. That is the extent of your "American values."

I look forward to the day when real Americans will repeal the 2nd Amendment. That doesn't mean that all Americans will have no guns. It only means that we will be able to deal with them in a sensible way, something entirely beyond your comprehension.

I don't have time or the desire to listen to PB's worthless preaching or motherly advice. You're wrong. I fully understand how little those particular rights matter to foolish people like you these days. I also understand how ludicrous it for people like you to think that guns had nothing to do with your rights or the protection of your lives and property here and how foolish you are to give them up and support the reduction of the amount of armed police and other branches of law enforcement during the early days of a cultural civil war that's been brewing and dividing the country for years.

Well, you do have a point about an approaching civil war. If that really gets going, then being armed may be necessary for those who fight it. I expect, however, that it will be you guys and not the "rioters" that you so fear who will rebel against a Democratic administration that will pass gun control. That is the prediction I have made and said here for years and years. If it happens this way, then we on the Left will have the state on our side and will be able to rely on the national army to put down your revolt. I can be an arm-chair fighter instead of an armed one and watch you guys get crushed with glee.

I suspect you would do well to listen to brower or anyone else who can talk you out of helping to foment this civil war. It will save you time and trouble in the long run to drop some of your fanaticism and anger and moderate your views just enough to sit out this 4T safely, and emerge into a 1T that will be more to your liking later on.

I have not "given up" my gun rights or any guns because I never had them. My Dad is a role model for this, having been a pacifist and conscientious objector in World War II, co-founder of Pacifica Radio, and active against guns. He did not believe in violence to solve problems. His views may have been a bit extreme, I admit, but so were mine in a different way back in the late sixties, so I can't complain. I started participating in the movement for gun control the year after you were born, after RFK was killed with one. There's no chance that I would ever own a gun or suppose that my rights depend on this.

It seems like your rioters and property destroyers or conglomeration of gangs are trying to start one with us right now. I hope for YOUR sake and the sake of the petty, self serving DEMOCRATS in office and their families and all the recipients whose lives are dependent upon them that they're unable to succeed because we're ready for it more than we were when Move On. Org showed up and reared its ugly head politically. Like I said, you better be careful about who you are doing business with and who you are doing business for and whose views you are promoting and which groups you are supporting these days.