07-15-2020, 10:52 PM
(07-15-2020, 02:31 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(07-15-2020, 11:25 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:Well, the blue side is busy implementing new values and clinging to old values right now while half the country ( the half of the country that's already set on keeping the old values) is watching and wondering how its going to play out right now. As I recall, the Republican party ended slavery and Jim Crow and it was the Democratic party that fought to keep them both alive.(07-15-2020, 10:16 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I think you're wrong/wishful thinking as usual. I think we are at the beginning of the 4t myself. I'm sorry but the O8' crash was small potatoes compared to what we are going through now and all the repercussions that follow.
September 11th was a little early and there was a conservative in charge. 2008 and whatever little Obama tried to do was undone by Trump. I would agree neither was the trigger, regeneracy and leading into the crisis heart. Now, we are almost definitely in the crisis heart, though arguably we won't have a regeneracy until the federal government is implementing the new values.
But I would say the crisis problems are have always been solved, and you cannot do that by trying to pretend the problems do not exist. I know how we traditionally have had bad presidents clinging to the old values and demonstrating how they don't work any more. Buchanon, Hoover and Trump are all doing a great job of that. In a way that is necessary, to prepare the country to move on.
Still you aren't yet convinced. Between the virus and Trump, enough people will be. You are stubborn or stupid enough that you may not be among them.
The party roles have switched 180 degrees on this, even though right-wingers keep trying to make this irrelevant point.