The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Classic-Xer]

(07-16-2020, 04:34 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(07-15-2020, 12:54 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Yep. Jim Crow ended almost 60 years but you're still acting like it's alive and well and still going on strong these days. You are also still denying that Marxism is more active and more alive and a much greater influence and more of a threat to America and the American way of life than the remnants of the bygone era of Jim Crow. Why does the city of Chicago have a clueless left wing political activist or black sugar mommy for its mayor these days?  Liberal sugar mommy's only know how to buy votes and please liberal constituents with government funding and other free stuff associated with government funding and going along with whatever liberal interest groups want, believes the country must  focus on and address like climate change and so forth.

There are a bunch of bad cops who think they can literally get away with murder.  This may not strictly be called Jim Crow, but any time an arm of the government adheres to prejudice and violence and rejects treating the people they are supposed to serve well, you have a problem.  Just because you do not expect the cops to kill yourself, your family, your friends, you do not think it is a problem?  Many do.  If you do not have enough empathy to perceive the problem, that is your lack.

Many folks have objected to the elites and division of wealth under different names.  It is widely accepted as a problem.  Marxism is different in that it proposes the problem cannot be solved peacefully, but that a violent revolution is necessary.  This approach has been rejected, mostly due to the policies of Lenin, Stalin and Mao.  It just works poorly.  Your ideological blindness prevents you from seeing this rejection.  You assume this motivation as a straw man to prevent having to address the real motivation of liberals.

These days, the Boogaloo Bois are the primary organization that advocates the need for violence, for a new revolution or civil war.  Even they carefully avoid Marxist language as it makes for poor public relations.  Sill, the problems Marx so well described are real.  I don’t care whether you call them the Robber Barons, the Military Industrial Complex, the elites, the one percent, or whatever, there are many ways to note that the extreme division of wealth is a problem.

You yourself are obsessed with and advocate violence.  Still, it is violence in favor of the old values.  It is hard to call it Marxism if you are advocating the status quo.  Still, it is not really the status quo.  You do not go on racist rants or advocate the continued division of wealth.  Like the Tea Party, you are generally against the elitist element.  Your ideological blindness prevents you from seeing the real problems with the racist violent police.  This leaves you as an advocate of small government and law and order.  In the first, I would say that the unraveling took us well past the point of diminishing return.  In the latter, I could approve if you could keep law and order while removing the violent racism.

Yes, there may be a few cops like that in the country. I don't think there are enough of them to attack, intimidate, condemn and punish all of them or treat them all like shit these days. The Boogaloo Bois ain't shit compared to Antifa and Black Live Matter and the party who is now in bed with both of them. Bob if you push me or punch or wave a stick or a bottle or anything that could be a weapon, I'm going to down and if the liberal Democrats ( the ones perpetuating and enabling by looking the other way or doing nothing) don't like it or think its wrong then that's to bad. PS. I thought you said (told Dave) the Boogaloo Bois were communist believers. As far as you and the others, you can disagree, deny affiliation, reject and even try to refuse to support it but if you can't then you're pretty fucked and are going to have to accept whether you like it or not at that point. As I mentioned, I'll help feed you and the other liberals here and others else where to the liberal mobs on a silver plate.

I am more or less in line with Tea Party these days. It's funny, the Minneapolis city counsel passed a bill that would make policing the hood and other sketchy areas damn near impossible and limited what the police can do in neighborhoods outside those areas then submitted and approved a formal request for private security for themselves at the tax payers expense. That's fucked up in my opinion but probably makes sense or doesn't matter to some idiot or clueless person who still supports the liberal status quo. One other thing, I don't think racism was a factor in the death of George Floyd. In other words, I don't think the cop who killed Floyd was a racist as you say. If anything, class was more of a factor than race.