The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Classic-Xer]

(07-20-2020, 05:01 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(07-20-2020, 04:18 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I gave you a long  list of wars that were fought against old world values that America won and you come back at me with this nonsense.

Which is why I deleted the post just before you responded.  A clearer version seemed possible.

The non crisis war qualification still stands.  They say little about how 4Ts work.

The American Civil War doesn’t really count either.  While Britain almost became involved, it never did.  The American Civil War was not a war fought against an old world power.

But the Revolution and World War II do count as wars fought against the old world for reasons we believe in, though you have to admit there were economic reasons too.  In the Revolution we were trying to free ourselves from colonial imperialism.  In World War II, we were trying to keep the trade lanes open, to become the superpower we became.

But in fighting against kings, slaves and dictators, we were fighting with the arrow of progress, for an advance in equality, democracy and human rights.  The old values lost, became abandoned following the wars fought.

How that makes you optimistic that the old values will stand this time around escapes me.  In the crisis heart, equality, democracy and human rights come to the fore.  Keeping minorities unequal and not valuing the preservation of life puts you one the wrong end of things.

Yes. We forced the hand of the Japanese by imposing a trade embargo on American oil exports that cut off their primary oil supply and opened ourselves up to an attack by the Japanese. What do you mean the Civil War doesn't count as a crisis war? It's the worst in terms of overall casualties and the most pivotal war that America has fought to date. We wouldn't have been able to win World II without the full support of American South. What you don't seem to realize or accept is that America remained intact after the Civil War and went on to win future American wars including two world war together as one nation. You forget, the old world values that the Confederacy was fighting to retain included age old slavery which was completely abandoned by the South after the war. Right now, we are in the middle of a cold civil war with the Left. Now, unless you had an epiphany and switched your political allegiance, you are on the same side as the Left. As far as I can see, the Left still represents the old world values associated with the Cold War and still seeks power over everyone by gaining control over government these days. All I can say, if that issue can't be resolved politically, it's going to be resolved by war which history should have taught you. One other thing, I'm on the side that represents life and you're on the side that views life as a choice.