07-21-2020, 08:44 AM
(07-20-2020, 10:40 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:Really?? I disagree with you, Liberal has gotten less liberal and more crazy as the libertarian right has been gradually taking over the Republican party and changing the rules of the game. You think you are winning but I know you are loosing and boxing yourselves into a corner. Personally, I think Americans are content with watching how things eventually out in the cities. If I were you, I wouldn't expect much support with all the shit that America has seen lately. BTW, the President's name was James Polk.(07-20-2020, 10:35 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(07-20-2020, 06:18 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: There is a very long term way of looking at things which is laid out in the book The Cousin's Wars. It proposes that the English Civil War started the split between what has become the modern red blue conflict. There was an aristocratic, rural, high church cavalier faction, and a democratic, urban, low church roundhead faction. The first immigrated to the southern states when they were losing, and the last immigrated to the north. Both cultures made significant contributions, each in their own way, to how America evolved.How would you plan to eat during the Liberal war with Rural America? How do you keep Suburban America from siding with Rural America? How do keep what's left of Urban America from leaving and siding with Suburban America and Rural America? You're right, Liberal America which ain't all that liberal or all that democratic either these days would end up getting smoked by America.
Still, it is generally the Roundhead pattern where equality, human rights and democracy is pushed forward. The roundhead urban faction has wound up pushing the new values, the cavalier rural faction the old.
I suspect this has some bearing for why you are an advocate for the southern, rural, racist, red perspective of today.
Now I can't say that the cavalier culture hasn't contributed to America. They just wind up supporting the racist violent element, which is a disadvantage when the 4T comes around. They tend to get smoked.
Liberal has gotten more Liberal as conservative has gotten more crazy conservative, and some suburbs are more diverse and thus more Democratic.
CA supplies most of the nation already. We'll be fine, unless too much of CA farm country refuses to go along with liberal America. Reds hate CA, but they forget how much they depend on us.
And, of course, blue America imports more. We have access to the sea and you guys don't.
You like American history. Do you remember which Jacksonian Democrat fought a war to conquer the SF Bay Area? Did you know that this president had a 22-2 horoscope score? There's even a street named after him in SF known for hosting a lot of gay stuff.