The cancer infecting the political Left

[Bob Butler 54]

(07-22-2020, 10:04 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(07-21-2020, 02:25 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: They may insist on correct terms, but they are not proposing to put people in jail for not using them.

They are most certainly proposing it, and in Canada they are actually doing it.

Rachel Maddow had a legal talking head on recently.  According to this guy, the federal government was never given policing powers.  In the original Constitution, policing was left to the states.  In FDR and Hoover's day, the feds took dominance on certain crimes, mostly involving the crossing of state lines.  Various gangsters would commit their crimes in one state, but keep clean in another, and thus act with impunity.  But the federals have no police function for most crimes, crimes which do not involve crossing state lines.  (Kidnapping is another such crime where the federals rapidly get jurisdiction.)

Thus, state AG's putting a restraining order on the federals could establish a good case.

Now, activist like the Boogaloo Bois who travel long distances to make trouble could be specifically targeted.  If you know someone crossed state lines to make trouble, there is a federal case.  This could actually be helpful, would force the secret police to do more detective work and focus on people who commit real crimes.  Locals walking local streets without providing probable cause would not make such a case.

Now, the federal forces are trained and usually act to fulfill proper functions.  This includes guarding federal buildings, border patrol, port inspections, and guarding federal prisons.  If they are not doing one of these functions, they are open season.

The 1968 Democratic convention was brought up and presented as a presidential candidate initiating a "police riot".  It was given as an example of a Law and Order candidate supporting police using violence and acting outside the law as a political ploy.

It seems like an undercover cop with a radio link for calling for help mingling among the protesters could act to set up a sting for these guys.  If they make a false arrest, if they use violence without provocation, the state could act.  If the feds wind up using a tactic quite at odds with the local approach, they have motivation to act.

In Chicago, they have a 12,000 man police force and a incoming force of 200 secret police.  This is not enough to make a dent in any policing shortcoming.  It is enough to create trouble if they like.  Watching them to make sure they do not make trouble seems plausible.

Hmmm... This thread seems to have been hijacked, concentrating on a cancer by the political right.