07-28-2020, 08:46 PM
(07-28-2020, 06:49 PM)Einzige Wrote:(07-28-2020, 06:39 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(07-28-2020, 05:52 PM)Einzige Wrote: Goddammit, Marxism is not simply Industrial Capitalism With Unions.
What it is, above all, is labor abolitionism.
But Industrial Capitalism with Unions and strong benefits may be preferred to Marxism. Lenin, Stalin. Mao. Most people remember. The guy who proves best at organizing power and violence will often care more about power and violence than he does about the people.
The Soviet Union was State capitalist. This was readily admitted to by Lenin himself.
Well he should admit it. But the relevant point is that the master of violence and organizing power too often will use violence and organize the power for himself rather than for the people. That is the big gap between the theory and the practice. No one in the Marxist tradition has ever wielded power in favor of the people. Not Lenin. Not Stalin. Not Mao. Not anyone. Thus people are not likely to walk the Marxist route. They just remember.
Especially if the combination of protest and legislation works. Violence is always an option. The powers that be don't want violence, and yield before that happens. The advocates of violence in the Information Age democracies never get an inning. How are they going to score?
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.