The cancer infecting the political Left

[Classic-Xer]

(07-29-2020, 04:17 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:22 AM)Einzige Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 12:32 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(07-28-2020, 11:35 PM)Einzige Wrote: Oil and water literally don't mix, dude - nothing in the Democratic Party platform is either Marxist or conducive to Marxism.

Even the most radical forms of wealth redistribution, far beyond what even Sanders was calling for, is fundamentally capitalist- Capital has always relied on redistribution, whether socially as colonization or individually as inheritance; this Marx called "primary" (or "primitive") accumulation. Capital, when redistributed, simply begins reproducing itself as Capital in other hands.

Marxism calls for the abolition of Capital, not its redistribution. Marxism envisages the abolition of labor, not it's being made more expensive via unionization etc.

Left-liberal Keynesian and MMT theories, even in their most radical forms (even when espoused by self-professed "Marxists" like e.g. Yaris Varoufakis) and actual Marxism are incompatible conceptually. Of course I'm a filthy left-communist and would be derided as an ultra wrecker by orgs like the CPUSA, which front Marx and endorse Democrats, but so be it.

We figured that out a while ago. The Democratic party can't win without a relatively cheap army Marxist believers and followers doing the bulk of the work and scaring people into agreeing and voting for them. I'm sorry but the Democratic party is a regime and it has always functioned like a regime but it's time is coming to end.

Eh? The vast majority of Democratic voters, even of Democratic activists, are basically nonideological, like the overwhelming majority of Americans.

Well, let's make this easy. For POTUS, the choice is between a Mad Man and a Zombie. As for the 2 parties. They're both Neoliberal/Neocon. The US population has been gaslit to no end. The result, a step, step down towards the next dark age. Until then, let's enjoy our bread and circuses. [cheap junk food], mass/digital media. I'll go for Biden for a better chance for bread.  Like, it's the new national motto:   "It's all about the bejamins"    

When in Rome, do as the Romans do.  In America, do what Americans do. That means you join a tribe like Futbah teams and sort out what kind of junk food you prefer.  After all, even though America hates to admit this reality,  Trump is the personification of the US.
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Marxism, like anything human concept has to account for the fact that  some humans are sociopaths. This reality is why a lots of zealous ideologies warp into nightmares.  History is littered with this stuff.

Trump's not a mad man. He's to stoic, to cunning and to calculated to be a mad man. So, you go ahead and vote for the zombie and get used to the idea of fighting for a loaf of bread or paying twice as much for a loaf that can't be manufactured as much or get to your grocery store until its disinfected and cleansed or sold until its disinfected and cleansed and so on. Dude, the guy has 83 million followers on twitter that the dude who owns Facebook bans and doesn't worry about losing as customers. You better wake up and stop thinking like a Democrat and start thinking like an American who knows they're dealing with a crisis right vs sitting in the bleachers watching one right now. Do what Rani did if you can't accept voting for a Republican, vote Libertarian instead of voting for a zombie and find yourself being stuck with a two bit liberal candidate who doesn't deserve to be president that the country doesn't recognize as being legit.