How the Counterculture created the Reagan Revolution

[Bob Butler 54]

(07-29-2020, 05:29 PM)Einzige Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 07:56 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Materialism says that the purpose of life is to work hard to get somewhere. Marxism... requires people to believe this scam

No it doesn't.

There is a big difference between what Marx put between the pages of various books and what the revolutionaries actually did when they got their hands on power.  A big disconnect.  I remember JPT pulled this trick too in quoting Marx's writing and supposedly making excuses for giving the revolutionaries another shot.  Me, I think they have been given enough shots.  There are actually non Marxist systems that have achieved real results in the real world that should be tried first.  Violence is the proverbial last resort.

But an argument between the theory that never happened and the reality that actually occurred can go on indefinitely.   You are arguing on entirely different premises which don't touch each other.

Now if there is a culture out there with Marxism as one of the viable value set going into a crisis with revolutionaries that actually believe in the books rather than taking whatever power they can and turning a deaf ear on the people, you might get something.  I'm not holding my breath.  I might keep an eye on such a culture and set of revolutionaries if someone would care to suggest them.  I'm not inclined to believe they exist.