08-07-2020, 04:32 PM
(08-07-2020, 03:55 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:As I've mentioned before, I view the Democratic side as still being the more racist/ race based side these days. You can't blame me for going by what I see and hear vs going by what you or the liberal media say or seem to believe themselves either. I doubt Oprah or the Obama's or will be able to convince more intelligent Americans that their race prevented them from achieving their place in the world. Dude, it's so stupid it's comical/border line sicking to watch at this point.(08-07-2020, 03:30 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(08-07-2020, 01:34 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:Well, I never belonged or placed my faith in the so called working mans party and view the working mans party as an old Democratic cliche that's pretty much meaningless these days. I know several members of the so called working mans party who are coming to the realization that the party no longer represents them or their primary interests or concerns today.(08-07-2020, 01:02 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: PB, I live in a Democratic state that has no qualms or moral issues with big business (utilities and national chains) competing with me directly. I assume that you are blind to the fact that the Democratic party is in bed with big business.
Yes. During the progressive era, the Democrats were the party of the working man. The Republicans leaned towards the elites. But by the middle of the unravelling, both parties would accept money from the elites. Unsurprisingly, benefits were weakened, unions were weakened, and jobs were sent overseas. This is one of the reasons folks are not overly thrilled to see Biden as an establishment figure getting the nod.
Wise not to put your faith, but you should put it in neither party. During the unraveling, money seemed to over ride votes. Both parties were parties of the elites.
May shift with the need to get rid of the Trump Republicans, We might be patriotic and loyal to the Constitution and solving the crisis problems for a while. But I can't blame you for being dubious. It is just confusing that you are not being dubious about the elite racist party even if you don't push the two influences that so taint the Republicans.