08-14-2020, 03:05 PM
(08-14-2020, 02:48 PM)David Horn Wrote:(08-14-2020, 08:55 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(08-14-2020, 03:51 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: The government that is breaking down now is being run by your guy, or haven't you noticed?
Don't confuse the poor guy with facts. You are ruining some perfectly good fantasies!
(08-14-2020, 03:51 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: I thought I already refuted these statements. On another thread maybe? Or above?
That seem par for the course. We seem to be repeating ourselves on both sides quite a bit. Like, I got tired of saying what the Founding Fathers believed about the Second Amendment, and written quite clearly into the law. There are certain things that an extremest of either flavor refuses to hear.
(08-14-2020, 03:51 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Trump has no values or principles at all, and your side following and depending on his showmanship for your political power over us shows no values at all on your part. As for "what happened the last time the New America started a war with America?" that was called the civil war, and your side lost pretty badly. And you still want to celebrate and laud the fallen heroes of this lost and ignoble cause.
I wouldn't say no values or principles. 'Get more wealth and power' counts, even if they seem so out of step as not to be counted as values or principles by some. It is sort of like when Classic claims liberals have no values. If your values are so much in conflict with the other guy, he might not recognize the values as values at all.
I think you could call the (expletive deleted) poor values, though.
I gave up on the entire wash-rinse-repeat cycle. Classic is unreachable ... as are we for that matter. He's exceedingly comfortable with his version of the truth. We're comfortable with ours. Spending hours trying to change that is hours spent on futility, so I wish you well. I'll be over here having a beer.
I have tended to look at this as putting out the truth as I see it for those who may be lurking, and to counter Classic's propaganda, rather than trying to change Classic's mind.