The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Bob Butler 54]

(08-20-2020, 09:36 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: OK. You know better than me as I pretend to smile and nod my head in agreement for the sake of not extending an argument that's already dead in my opinion. Right now, he's mainly loyal to about half the country due to obvious  state the country is in right now. The Democrats are mainly loyal to their own and mainly speaking to their own right now as well.

The way the Democrats are trying to spin it is that Trump is trying to be divisive and govern primarily for half the country, while Biden is trying to be sympathetic and promising to work for the whole country.  Not a bad spin by the Democrats.  We'll have to see how true Biden can make it be.

(08-20-2020, 09:36 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: The Neo Cons were  into the idea of winning hearts and minds and nation building during on going wars within country's that Americans don't give two shits about these days.

Not quite right.  The Neo Cons were of the mind that the US had the upper hand in high tech conventional wars and could use violence to make profit in a one superpower time.  Only later did other elements of the military realize that things were different in an insurgent proxy environment and they were fighting for hearts and minds. By that time it was too late, the US had turned many locals off.  If you bombard a village because there is a sniper hiding somewhere in the village, or if you shoot up a wedding party because the wedding party was shooting their weapons in the air to celebrate, you make locals mad.  Two different strategies and approaches.  I wouldn't give the Neo Cons credit for the late war surge strategy.

But that doesn't matter in these days of everybody being reluctant to put boots on the ground.