09-20-2020, 01:00 AM
(09-19-2020, 11:11 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(09-19-2020, 08:48 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: On Earth 2, the opposite of weird is normal. America is unique which may be weird to Europeans who live in Democratic socialist countries that don't change much on their own. I agree that blues are more weird than the reds. As a matter of fact, we've been telling the blues that for years. We've used terms like warped minds, libtards, loonie or crazy liberals to describe blue weirdness. I don't see the weird dragging the reds like you do in your own weird perspective. I don't know if that makes sense to someone normal but it's the best that I can do without being a weird. I see weird strongholds attracting more weird and getting more weird while losing more and more normal. It fit's my belief that there's a process of natural selection going on within the country right now. A natural process that can only occur in a free country like America. I mean, people tearing down statues associated with their freedom is weird to me. But then again, I'm not weird.
I’d best finish the book, but I have learned enough to see you are confusing weird and WEIRD. Northwest Europe is as much WEIRD as anyone, and that includes the so called socialist democracy countries. Asian countries like Russia and China are behind. WIERD people will be loyal to principle and those with similar temporary specialty skills, while tribal people are loyal to the tribe and all into what will benefit the people most like them. I can see the industrial skilled urban people taking over from the rural group oriented folks. The Industrial Revolution as well as protestantism and the S&H recent crisis are all about becoming more WIERD.
I missed the misspelling and its significance. Unlike Classic X'er I got the rest -- I hope. I would guess that by now Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan are themselves WIERD. America and western Europe obviously attract people whose WIERD qualities are not welcome in their homelands.
Quote:And I would disagree that the process is unique to America. University students are more WEIRD all over the globe. They are just more into reading and thus getting their brains wired WIERDly. In many places the urban educated crowd is far more WIERD than the rural folks still dedicated to the tribal mentality. The well educated crowd are more WIERD than the laborers.
A not-so-great education might be adequate for fitting into a job in which rigid conformity and obedience along with low expectations is nearly a necessity. Obviously a WIERD person would chafe in a job as a retail sales clerk or a worker in a food-processing place. In some environments it is best to not think too much. The test of a truly good education is that one can think outside the box. Does that have the connection with "intelligence" as the tendency or ability to read between the lines? Any blockhead could learn to read classical Latin or Greek when the written language was highly phonetic.
Quote:Just as an example, the old Confederate statues are dedicated to the old racial cavalier culture, more accepting of white Protestant culture than the principle of all men being equal. Being racist, sexist and loyal to the group would be the opposite of being WEIRD. It would explain why reds are clinging so much to the old values and people most like them. That's being tribal. That seems to be what they are.
...and connecting to an obsolete way of earning an income: working people without paying them.
Quote:It goes in spades to the Middle East. Groups with like associations of tribe, region, religion and so forth will strive against other similar groups.
Of course, tribe, region, and sect are effective means of organizing society, and if one has no social organization, then WIERD ways will never have a way to form. Some people need those.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.