We're WEIRD. Get over it.

[David Horn]

(09-20-2020, 01:39 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(09-20-2020, 01:00 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(09-19-2020, 11:11 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: It goes in spades to the Middle East.  Groups with like associations of tribe, region, religion and so forth will strive against other similar groups.

Of course, tribe, region, and sect are effective means of organizing society, and if one has no social organization, then WIERD ways will never have a way to form. Some people need those.

Tribal organization would definitely make sense in continuing and exaggerating the tribe's genes.  It was cost effective from Darwin's perspective for a long time.  Changing the group's mental makeup to value working with people with similar skills, reading, principle and culture is turning out to be more cost effective though.  The human race is drifting in the direction of WEIRD.

Some people need their tribes, though.  Loyalty to the group can be deeply ingrained, a way of thinking, stubborn to say the least.

Tribalism is highly ingrained, so it's not surprising that it holds sway among those least likely to think their way through things.  Emotion is primal, and it won't just go away, though it can be subsumed -- and is among an ever increasing number.  The real question is, will that be enough?