The 4T Generational Constellations - Red v Blue

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(09-27-2020, 02:50 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(09-26-2020, 02:33 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(09-25-2020, 10:48 AM)sbarrera Wrote: Isn't this what is meant by the "constellation"? You put it in derisory terms - the Idealists brainwash the Civics - but it could also be described as giving them their vision (via the memes...) which they then act upon as a united front. It's just that there are two fronts and there is conflict in the streets.

I'm not disagreeing that there is a constellation; that's basic to generational theories discussed here.  I'm disagreeing with the idea that there are two separate constellations, one Red and one Blue.  The fundamental grievances of the Millenials have nothing to do with the Red v Blue arguments.  Of course, that makes it difficult for the Millenials to express them, since Boomers are all about Red v Blue arguments.

What do you see as the fundamental grievances of the Millennials?  

I can see the increased cost of college.  I remember 'hat day' with my college band.  Each band member was requested to put together a strange hat.  One was a graduation hat with a bunch of tuition bills attached by string.  His quarterly freshmen tuition bills were in the mid hundreds, his senior bills in the mid thousands.  It has only got worse since then.  I would consider it a honest grievance.  I was in a co op plan as an engineer.  As I approached graduation, I could afford a new car, a new organ, soon to be followed by a new fangled widget called a personal computer, all paid for in cash.  Once upon a time towards the end of the progressive era, you could get in the professional elite group by just committing some scholarly effort.  That ended.

But what other issues?  The poor economy, the division of wealth, the racial violent policing all fold into the Red Blue.

Plutocracy -- and make no mistake, the USA is a plutocracy and has been since the "Reagan Revolution" -- operates on the basis that the worker exists to make life plush for the elites while becoming helpless in improving or maintaining his condition. If Friedrich Hayek saw socialism (all of which led in his mind toward Stalinism) as a Road to Serfdom. he failed to recognize that for-profit entities could have bloated bureaucracy whose purpose was to control the worker as rigidly as Soviet-style central planners. If Marxism-Leninism denied one the freedom to choose careers except to those willing to become toadies of the regime and made sure that nobody can slip through the system as an owner of a store or a plot of land, the current system ensures that one can get nothing without paying a high price in debt that compels one to serve creditors just to survive at terms of the creditors' choosing. Survival becomes a privilege, but also at the same time a questionable blessing. The common man finds himself in the position in which he owes everything to economic elites who act as if they owe him nothing other than what keeps that person working.

It is not enough to say that the economic elites seek a return to the Gilded Age, which at the least was a time of a wide-open frontier of innovation and enterprise, the current system reeks of a command system in which owners dictate what everyone else does... or else. Consequences are cruel, which may make it easy to ascribe the fault with such a pathology of economic sadism.  Of course it is easy to make Donald Trump a scapegoat, as he exemplifies just about everything wrong with America except for alcoholism.  (Supposedly he is a tee-totaler, having been scared of the alcoholic demise of a brother).