We're WEIRD. Get over it.

[David Horn]

(10-06-2020, 01:13 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(10-05-2020, 11:38 AM)David Horn Wrote: No, I'm not in favor of rule by a small cluster of unelected jurists, but show me an alternative at this juncture.

Start with a set of reasonable compromises.  Assume the other guy takes his values as seriously as you take yours.  Give what the other guy really wants to have, stick to your basic position, and hope there is some intercept.

That may have worked in the dim past, but not now. What you're expecting is comity, and that went out the window with the Reagan Presidency.

Bob Wrote:To start, assume an individual right to own and carry civilian weapons.  Define civilian weapons in terms of power, size of weapon and one shot per trigger pull.  If you feel it necessary, include the felon and insane exceptions.

I'm not going to assume something I firmly disagree with. Carrying weapons should be a privilege, not a right. If some of the big square states with no people in them decide that, on the state level, this is suitable for them, then they should make it a state right ... and keep it there. Chicago is a perfect example of an adjacent state polluting the city with weapons on demand. OK, maybe that works for Indiana. It doesn't work for Illinois -- especially Chicago.

Bob Wrote:But above all quit the idea that you are above the law, that your own values trump everybody else's.

"Gun rights" are only defined as they are because a conservative court decided they should be. Even there, the right was limited to home defense. I could live with that, if it stayed there. It doesn't.