We're WEIRD. Get over it.

[Bob Butler 54]

(10-08-2020, 04:37 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: I am thinking whether to put ol Classic on ignore. But then, we might have no-one to argue with, no-one against which to shine our light. Classic is getting rather pathetic, and I know he doesn't like me, but his insults really mean nothing to me, and I have no real feelings of anger against him; just against his ideas-- which many others in our strange and backward society hold. So, I guess we're stuck with the poor dude, and the others he represents. If we have that civil war we both have predicted might come, I have predicted that his side will lose rather quickly, it will be all over, and we'll go on to gradually mend our ways, and onward toward our next awakening. 

I wish we had the awakening all the time. I do love the good old days, and I will never believe they can't happen all the time.

The odd thing is respecting motivations across the gap. I have been saying Republicans have elitist and racist elements, reasonably well hidden in most cases. It is enough that they strive to create the huge division of wealth and strive to hurt the working man to keep whites over minorities. But they don’t advertise it, or you didn’t until Trump. In a few cases they are open about it.

Like, you can respect the conservatism, the desire to keep government small and taxes low, but they often duck speaking about their elitism and racism. If they don’t speak of it, how do you talk of it? Law and order. Let’s continue to occasionally murder minorities. They are the Tea Party, against the influence of the wealthy, until it is time to back Trump.

At the same time, the lack of communication is not symmetric. We deal with invented false portrayals of liberal motivation, not with what we actually say and believe. They cannot deal with our real motivations, thus lie to each other and themselves. I make it a point to honor wherever they have real policies worth considering or promoting, but I get little in return. It is easier to make up lies. Thus, the conversations are not two way. There is generally a swing and a miss as they fail to deal with real motivations.