10-21-2020, 12:29 AM
(10-20-2020, 12:36 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(10-19-2020, 11:19 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(10-19-2020, 10:19 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(10-18-2020, 10:49 AM)David Horn Wrote:Your welcome. Now, you run a long with Facebook, Twitter, Google the national channels, a group of billionaires with interests in the Green New Deal, a group of billionaires with interests in trade with China, a group of corrupt politicians who have been selling out America for years, a bunch of Marxist institutions and a Hamlet/Macbeth government that's in over its head in debt.(10-18-2020, 02:39 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: You assume??? Is there a Liberal around here who really knows anything at this point?? Let's see, we have Facebook and Twitter censoring/banning conservatives and banning press releases related to Biden and you're telling me that we're associated with the alternate truth squad. I watch Fox news and I check out their competition to see if they've changed or still the same. So, what's your opinion worth to me, has it's value changed over fifteen years.
H-m-m-m. My point made and confirmed. Thanks.
Ha, I think we'll leave all the debt to you guys. You side created it, after all.
Hamlet/MacBeth is what we've got. Your side is MacBeth, our side is Hamlet. Now that is the most obvious statement I can think of.
It's like the W.B. Yates poem Kenneth Clark and Brian Rush used to quote, although I don't think Brian quoted this part:
"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity" Today is becoming more and more like "between the wars" in the last saecular go-round.
“And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?”
https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2015...no-slouch/
Quote:I'd say 80 years of Progressive politics/policies and agreements with foreign powers and foreign institutions created most of it myself. I always thought the American capitol should be located further inland myself.
Forty years of an ideology that holds that the enrichment, indulgence, and power of economic elites have undone much of the social improvement that the progressive reforms of the last nearly ninety years have given us.
Nostalgic for the 1920's are you? It is unfortunate for you that the people who remember the 1920's (born 1915 or earlier) are no longer around to disabuse you of such a folly. The only thing better about those times was that real estate was then dirt cheap in contrast to what it was then. Figure that before the 1930's a "solid eighth-grade education" was adequate for the needs of the time. High-school completion went from a rarity to a commonplace reality in the 1930's (jobs largely disappeared for kids in the 1930's, and many found themselves getting high-school educations that would well prepare them as soldiers and for the prosperity of the post-WWII world); wages rose and working hours fell due to wage-and-hour laws; industrial workers got to form labor unions that achieved collective bargaining for workers; the GI Bill made college education available to an unprecedented number of adults (and even if I did not get direct benefits I got side benefits from the college graduates creating a better world... and much more.
Do you miss Jim Crow practice? I hope not!
Quote:We aren't the GOP/ the Macbeth's. We're the independent Republican base that the GOP needs to win national elections that the GOP has already lost in a way.
Do you realize what Macbeth was? He assassinated King Duncan in a blatant usurpation of power. Shakespeare's Macbeth plotted and executed a coup and caused a large number of innocent people to die during his reign. One can learn much from Shakespeare, including the critical lesson that thug government that begins with good intentions can cause great misery and bring about its own downfall. See also Richard III.
Macbeth-like leaders in the last century include Lenin, Franco, Quisling, Gottwald, Rakosi, Castro, Pinochet, Mengistu, "VD Amurderin'", Samuel Doeand "Satan Hussein" (OK, the last two are Idi Amin and Saddam Hussein)... be glad that we have nobody of the type. Check Wikipedia for the biographies on Wikipedia if you don't recognize them. .
Quote:I don't know what makes them think they can have it both ways but they'll learn when they lose their jobs. America will also get a much clearer picture of what the Democrats and the elites are about as well.
Joe Biden is as Establishment as one gets. Trump is a reckless demagogue who has done nothing good except for economic elites. Any illusion that he can do any good for the common man is a fraud. He offers scapegoats instead of solutions.
Quote:Like I said, a strong group of Republican Senators and a strong group of Republican Congressmen is all we need in Washington vs the Fascist Marxist/DNC/GOP coalition representing the Democratic party these days.
I'll take the more classic sort of conservative, the sort who recognizes that the common man needs something to preserve. Rule of law, checks and balances, virtue-based ethics, opportunity, fair wages, law and order, child protection, a good environment, and recognition of the validity of diversity; such is all conservative. The problem is that Donald Trump is no more a conservative than is David Duke.
Quote:You're right about Fascism being on the ballot, you're just wrong about the side that truly represents it today.
You don't know what fascism is.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.