4T = 9.11.01 -> 11.04.20

[Bob Butler 54]

(11-08-2020, 08:12 PM)jleagans Wrote:

(11-08-2020, 05:07 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(10-21-2020, 08:12 PM)jleagans Wrote: The Rs have destroyed themselves, the crisis is ending with Dems taking all the levers of power this cycle , likely for the decade .

The real battle will now shift to the Progressive vs Democrat battle that is the future of our two party system .

The 4T started in 2008 and is only half over. The Dems have only 2 levers of power, and not the other 2. This crisis is a long way from being over, and boomers are still around; lots of em. And there is still a red-blue battle among them; they are not all red. The majority of core boomers voted blue this time. There is still some faint memories of those days not so long ago when boomers had ideals and worked for them.

Yeah I disagree on the timings, the national mood made its dark pivot to overprotecting the children of crisis after 9/11.  

I DO think we may be looking at a possible disruption to the normal course of the saeculum as the old are sticking around much longer, making it harder for the transfer to millennials to occur.

Boomers voted red, they may have SHIFTED a bit blue from 2016 but they still offset millennials.

September 11 and the corresponding Middle Eastern 'stay the course' against 'cut and run' decision still looks like a crisis to me.  Half a crisis, anyway, the military part.  Among other things it taught the American people to shun wars as a crisis usually does.  Changing cultures with bullets was not an obvious win.  It happened a little early, and had something to do with the economic crash in 2008, but it did not end the crisis but returned us to a unraveling state after putting a bunch of boots on the ground was rejected.  The mood afterward was definitely unraveling, not high.  I think Obama was concentrating more on being the most gracious black president possible, not enough on hope and change.

We will solve or establish pattens of solving problems in the crisis.  It will not take that long to get a COVID vaccine, or to ease the immunities the racist violent police currently count on, but it will take much longer to solve global warming.  I can see us hitting the key problems of this crisis well before 2030.

I can also see the next prophet generation and awakening declaring we didn't do enough on global warming.  I think the elites and governments are quietly keeping fusion not quite ready yet, but come the awakening they won't be given much choice.  

If the unravelling ran a bit long, I suspect the next few turnings will be short.

Then again, I care much more about values and cultures, less about generations and upbringings.