11-09-2020, 05:45 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-09-2020, 06:41 AM by Eric the Green.)
(11-08-2020, 08:12 PM)jleagans Wrote:You make some good points. Thanks for your views, and for an opportunity to correct them(11-08-2020, 05:07 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(10-21-2020, 08:12 PM)jleagans Wrote: The Rs have destroyed themselves, the crisis is ending with Dems taking all the levers of power this cycle , likely for the decade .
The real battle will now shift to the Progressive vs Democrat battle that is the future of our two party system .
The 4T started in 2008 and is only half over. The Dems have only 2 levers of power, and not the other 2. This crisis is a long way from being over, and boomers are still around; lots of em. And there is still a red-blue battle among them; they are not all red. The majority of core boomers voted blue this time. There is still some faint memories of those days not so long ago when boomers had ideals and worked for them.
Yeah I disagree on the timings, the national mood made its dark pivot to overprotecting the children of crisis after 9/11.
The social mood did not change. We did not live in a crisis country, since Bush told people to keep shopping and go on as normal, and no mobilization of society occurred. I can't see any protection of children increasing as a result of more bombing raids in a land half way around the world, and adding more inspections at airports.
Quote:I DO think we may be looking at a possible disruption to the normal course of the saeculum as the old are sticking around much longer, making it harder for the transfer to millennials to occur.
Boomers voted red, they may have SHIFTED a bit blue from 2016 but they still offset millennials.
It depends on which boomers you mean. I don't know anymore where the graph I saw is, but it showed core boomers voting blue. There are a lot of us, and the sixties made a deep impression on us. We awakened big time. However, early Eisenhower-baby boomers (although some of them were hippie and left leaders), and late boomers and those who are really Xers (those born 1957-1964), are more conservative. Jonesers (late boomers and early Xers) and core Xers are the most conservative voting block. They are Reagan-babies.
Older people are sticking around longer. According to S&H, Silents were supposed to give up power when a 4T starts. Now we have a Silent president-elect, a Silent speaker of the House, and a Silent Senate leader! (of course, they are all war-baby boomer cuspers too, very late-wave Silent). So, much the same will happen in the later 4T years (though 2028 at least) and into the 1T. Boomers will still be in power. This will make the early 1T years seem more like a 4T, just as the early 4T years have seemed like an extension of the 3T (and this is still the case-- even at a time you suggest the 4T is about to end!). Millennials are not supposed to take full power until the 2T arrives. The 1T is mainly supposed to be the province of nomads like Truman and Eisenhower. It's a time to tamp things down. At the end of the previous 1T though, a civic named JFK did take power, and the GI generation proceeded to hold power until Bill Clinton brought the Boomers to power in 1993, well into our long 3T.
The astrology supports this. The Neptune cycle is twice that of Uranus, so there's a double rhythm playing out. I used this to predict a divided country in the 2020s for the USA, similar to civil war times (the 1850s and 60s). And in the 1865-1877 1T period, much of the civil war mood persisted in the Gilded Age 1T because Reconstruction had not ended. So it will be in the 2029-2035 period.