07-26-2016, 12:09 PM
(07-26-2016, 12:43 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(07-25-2016, 11:11 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Poke the Bear.
Poke him till he blinks.
We don't need a president who cavorts and conspires with dictators. Not Putin nor anyone else.
That's stupid. Russia has nukes.
OTOH, how about cavorting with nations that behead folks?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34838937
We don't need a president who cavorts and conspires with Arab sheiks. The House of Saud nor anyone else.
Quote:Obama has pushed back on the House of Saud more than any other President; with the Iran agreement and taking on the Salafists in both Syria and Iraq - basically, he has sent the message to both the Saudis (and the Israelis) that we're just not much into you any more.[/quote]
Putin has greatly complicated Syria, and delayed any reasonable peace obtainment. It's not surprising that he would prop up his boy, Assad, to keep his warm water port, but I think Kerry's got it right that there can be no long lasting peace as long as Assad is in power.
And of course, Putin's mischief all ties back to the sanctions, but more importantly, just being corralled by a ring of Eastern European countries whose people prefer to look West not East. I realize that there is some truth in Western style elites doing a number on these emerging economies and society; they need to be dealt with just as much there as they do in our own back yard. But its ridiculous to compare that to what Putin's kleptocracy
It is that kleptocracy that Trump has used to flourish in his personal wealth, and more than willing to sale us down the river to. Neither the Saudis, the Chinese, or any one else comes close to the potential harm Putin wants to impose on our society - he blames us for the what he considers the biggest and most shameful mistake in history, the fall of the Soviet Union - as he should. We'd be stupid to discount him.