The cancer infecting the political Left

[Bob Butler 54]

(11-25-2020, 10:27 PM)Einzige Wrote: Right. The real world, where social classes have definite, objective existences, defined not by mere monetary wealth (as in "the 1%" of vulgar left-populists coming out of Occupy) but by the social and juridical relationship to the means of production from which that wealth arises.

Democratic Party left-liberalism is the favored orientation of a sector of the bourgeoisie in the United States, favoring as it does fiscally "loose" policies that support banks and subsidies to the tech and "green" energy sectors, as well as those factions of academia responsible for administering the capitalist State.

Can you try saying that using blue language. I can get that Occupy was too much into wealth and the mood of the country was not with them enough. They failed to make any real change.

Most people believe that violence is a last resort. Both the red and blue reject the Marxist and Boogaloo Bois idea that the system is so broken that we have come close to a last resort. Most blue at least think that normal politics and policing should deal with the military fighting the American people, the secret police over riding the local government, or Antifa, the Proud Boys, the Wolverine Watchmen, the KKK, the Neo Nazi, any militias wandering off their own turf.

The Marxists are trying to run afoul of that common assumption and thus are irrelevant. If FDR had failed, or if Biden fails, then maybe.

Then there are the rule of law questions that rose with Trump. Then there are the racists problems that rose with Black Lives Matter. Oh yah, there is a pandemic underway too. Not all issues are related to the problematic elites. If the elites are driven back a bit, there will be no need for the last resort. The question is whether the other problems will be too much of a distraction. Are they best addressed with modern language or a centuries old failed theory.

Anyway, convince me that democracy and non violent protests won't work. Give me some idea on what mechanism other that democracy and rule of law the Marxists are offering to prevent what has always happened before from happening again.