The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Classic-Xer]

(11-30-2020, 08:06 PM)Einzige Wrote:

(11-30-2020, 08:02 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(11-30-2020, 02:21 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(11-29-2020, 11:27 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(11-29-2020, 06:52 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I don't know who the younger House leaders are who are at least as progressive and competent at mobilizing action as Pelosi is. Invoking age alone does not describe what is happening, or the skill of the leaders. I don't know a young leader who can run for Pelosi's slot and win a broad mandate to lead the Party or be speaker. AOC will not be elected now, and I don't know if Ro Khanna can do it or is willing. Who else is there? Who will step up? A Gen Xer Democrat is more likely to be a spineless moderate.

McConnell is also a Silent and remains at the Republican helm. So that's no better for them, age wise.

Our government remains at a stalemate, but that is not due to the leadership, but to the voters. They voted for this. It's all on them. Voters today, when they vote for a senator, do not know who they are voting for. This year, they voted for McConnell or for Schumer, and even if the Democrats win two Georgia runoffs, McConnell will still win (though not as handily). 

Only if progressive Democrats win a Senate majority can they make DC and PR a state and thus end the Republican Senate dominance. Only then can they reduce or take down the filibuster and reform the court/add liberals. Until they can do this, thanks to the voters' decision, we are stuck in 1981. Maybe forever. In which case, the USA will not be the world's leader; China will be. The USA may decline or split apart, and there will be no hoped-for second turning. Only continued decline.

You voted for Biden and the return to the status quo. So, it's all on you and everyone else who voted for him. You also voted to establish China as the new world leader as well. I hope the Democrats are prepared to deal with continued decline and the reality of a national split occurring on its watch so to speak. I think you guys did a wonderful job setting yourselves up for failure. Just so you know, I understand that we're going to take some lumps too.

YOu voted for Trump and McConnell and the status quo. No, REGRESSION. So, it's all on you and everyone else who voted for him. You also voted to establish China as the new world leader as well. Because your vote for national decline makes that inevitable. I hope the Republicans are prepared to deal with continued decline and the reality of a national split occurring on their watch so to speak. I think you guys did a wonderful job setting yourselves up for failure. Just so you know, I understand that we're going to take some lumps too.. 

I voted for America to remain American for the most part  like 70 some million other Americans. We both got what we wanted in this election, we both got a clueless and relatively worthless/powerless Democrat in office. We all know the Democratic machine won the election for Biden and we all know how little effort that it took for him personally to win the election.

Yes, because voting for an eighty year old Irish Catholic and his police informant Vice Presidential nominee will magically cause America to change from being an exploitative capitalist hyperpower.

The Republicans and the Democrats are functionally interchangeable. It was, for example, Bill Clinton who signed the Statist, totalitarian apparatus of Immigration and Customs Enforcement into being, and Obama who paved the way for Trump's camps by being the Deporter-in-Chief.

Show me a country that functions as a country without immigration laws and their enforcement. Obama had a choice and he chose to be as close to an American President as you could be or get away with politically because he understood where we were at as a nation at the time and he understood that he needed the wealth of an entire nation to bank on and borrow against at the time. The moderates are more or less interchangeable which is why the moderates are more or less on their way out and becoming extinct.