12-01-2020, 04:08 PM
(12-01-2020, 03:28 PM)David Horn Wrote:(12-01-2020, 03:10 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(12-01-2020, 01:36 PM)Einzige Wrote: Again, holy shit, Lenin said this himself.
Quote:While the revolution in Germany is still slow in “coming forth”, our task is to study the state capitalism of the Germans, to spare no effort in copying it and not shrink from adopting dictatorial methods to hasten the copying of Western culture by barbarian Russia, without hesitating to use barbarous methods in fighting barbarism.
But that is because Lenin was a barbarian. He was no Marxist. I thought you acknowledged that Marxism has never been tried?
The problem is attracting people to the Marxist cause who are not barbarians. You have to convince civilized people that violence, the last resort, has been reached. This would be after it has been demonstrated that only a barbarian is going to win a revolution. Civilized people are more likely to use the tools of the Enlightenment, Gandhi or King.
The Marxist dream is just that: a dream. Pure socialism, without any externals to motivate, is only viable in a place that operates on magic. Why produce if it has no direct relevance? If we all can receive based on need, then any decision to contribute is optional, and likely rare. Without inputs outputs are impossible, so everyone starves.
Which is why we need a market -- to smash delusions. One of the worst delusions is that enterprise is no necessity.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.
