The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(12-01-2020, 04:09 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(12-01-2020, 02:37 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(12-01-2020, 01:37 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Covid was just the trigger that marks the beginning and you just elected Hoover/Chamberlain in my opinion. Thank God, we have the freedom to split with the Democrats and place them on ignore and turn a blind eye to the violence and social unrest that occurs in their little blue countries/ strongholds/city states. We'll get to see how many Democratic believers are left after several years of steady decline, hyper inflation and increasing numbers of people with no values who are pretty much free to do whatever they want with little to no concern about the consequences for their actions. We're already seeing it now. We'll see who is on the greedy side and see who the fools are as well.

I don't see you as a big advocate of the elite, of messing up the working man, of weakening unions, of cutting benefits, about sending jobs abroad.  Neither are you a racist, hating people because of their skin color.  Neither are you a Neo-conservative, advocating the use of war to make a profit.  Neither have you been a loud advocate of COVID, about killing lots of people because you think lots of death is neat.

And yet, you are still Republican.

People are amazingly willing to disregard facts rather than change their mindset and values.  You have demonstrated this as much as anyone.  You are not the worst of those locked in the red universe, not by a long shot.

Biden has promised to commit himself to fighting COVID, elitism, racism and global warming after Trump placed himself on the wrong side of all four.  Hoover in declining government regulation and correction of the economy, Chamberlain in declining to contain autocratic military aggression, ignored the major issues of their time.  Given the major crisis level issues, Hoover, Chamberlain and Trump failed to engage.  They found reasons to stick with what had been always done before.  They tried to maintain the status quo.

I don't know how well Biden will keep his promises.  I just know he will attempt to confront the problems.  This makes George III, Buchanan, Hoover and Trump as kindred in remaining the same, in clinging with not solving problems.  It lumps George Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Churchill together with Biden in trying to solve problems.  I know Biden hasn't earned that place yet.  Those are mighty names.  He hasn't become that tightly linked to the new values and given the credit for the forces of history.  He isn't who I would have chosen for the role.  Still, he is heading in the right direction.

We'll see how determined you are to head the wrong way, to leave the very real crisis problems unaddressed.  The violence of the Black Lives Matter protests has already faded.  The Proud Boys and Wolverine Watchmen seemed the last big violent groups.  COVID is getting close to overloading the hospitals.  Getting out of the economic difficulties almost requires attacking the tremendous inequality in wealth.

We'll see if the folks that shifted over to the blue perspective shift back after Trump is no longer in the White House.  We'll see if Trump stays gone, or keeps the base as a hostage to bring the Republican Party down.  The regeneracy starts January 20th.  We'll see how the crisis flows from there.

But for a favorable place in the history book, I would say Biden has landed in the better position.

I assume Biden will cause more problems than he solves like the Democrats who proceeded him.

Undoing Trump damage will be difficult enough. 

Quote:I think everyone knows that COVID will be solved.

Give credit where due to the medical profession and Big Pharma. 

Quote:So, we'll give that promise to Biden right now. Is Biden going to solve racism? Biden would have to kill every racist regardless of their race (racist blacks are just as racist as racist whites these days).

That does not compute. 

Quote:Racism is still to lucrative for Biden and the Democrats to solve at this point.

What still matters is that it still hurts.

Quote:I don't see the SWJ's embracing equality and giving up their jobs and all the fruits associated with their jobs. I don't see Biden stopping dumping billions of American tax dollars into corrupt institutions and countries that most Americans give to shits about either.

Welfare pays for itself. It's Congress that allocates the funds. 

Quote:I think Eric summed up the result of the election pretty good when he pretty much said, the Democrats retained their control over the cities but pretty much lost the country.

Joe Biden won urban America, and that now includes Suburbia. When Suburbia still had rural characteristics (low-density housing, low costs of government spending, light traffic, and a largely-white population) it still voted heavily Republican. That is over as apartments supplant the 'starter homes' for returning GI's from WWII, infrastructure approaches the end of its serviceable life and needs replacement or massive repair, and the need for highway widening to meet the needs of commute traffic. Poor people move in to the new apartment complexes so that they can work at the retail and restaurant jobs that they can't find where they used to live, and they bring their political values with them. .  

Quote:So, how much value does America place on a bunch of selfish overpaid round heads and the needs of the cities that they control?

I would have to be paid very well to move to New York City or other high-cost cities. 

Quote:Despite what you think or believe, I believe that America could replace/ live without New York City these days and I think it's also pretty clear that half the country could live without most of Washington DC represents today as well.

When global warming inundates coastal areas of the United States, Chicago will likely become the center for economic activity and St. Louis the capital of the United States. St. Louis would become much that Washington, DC is now.  But note well: New York City is what it is, and it would be difficult to do what New York City already does. 

Quote:The result of Biden's election will determine whether he headed in the right direction or not and that will depend on his willingness to eat crow and go against the racists and the elites who bankrolled his campaign and more or less did all the work to put him in office. That's what you voted for whether you can see it, understand it or not at this point in your life.

Racists? 





I wish that we could all forget this.