05-16-2016, 11:03 AM
No it didn't. If you examine Russian history (don't worry I know you haven't, and probably won't either, like most Boomers when reality conflicts with your ideology it is reality that is wrong, I totally get that) you'll see that the period from 1905-1922 hits all the 4T parameters perfectly. (Furthermore the Last Romanov Saeculum was a Mega-crisis for Russia anyway, but I digress.) As such without the war from about 1923-1943 would be a 1T. Furthermore it is pretty amazing that Russia had many technological and social breakthroughs immediately following the war. And no they didn't just copy the Germans. They did of course but about at the same rate as the US did as well.
Perhaps it is a hold over from the expectation that all Resolutions have to be "highs".
Furthermore, the Brezhnev stagnation (classic 3T if there ever was one) started in the late 1960s and ended around 1985 with Gorbachev being announced GenSec and the reversion to capitalism starting then.
As for China, they did have a rather long 4T starting in the late 1920s and lasting till 1949. Like Russia their last Qing Saeculum which ended about 1949 was a Mega-crisis.
Because WW2 happened to be a 4T for the US, UK, France, Germany and Japan does not mean it was for Russia or China. One could argue that it shortened Russia's 2T by about five years but that is it. As for China WW2 was icing on the cake which was the Chinese Civil War.
As for 4Ts being shortened, I don't think they can be. A turning is based on which generational archetype is in which phase of life. Unless you plan on claiming that Mao and Stalin had magical powers to prevent children from turning into adults (a power I don't ascribe to either--and I'm the unreformed stalinist here) a turning is going to happen on time wherever the material conditions to set up the S&H saeculum exists.
Perhaps it is a hold over from the expectation that all Resolutions have to be "highs".
Furthermore, the Brezhnev stagnation (classic 3T if there ever was one) started in the late 1960s and ended around 1985 with Gorbachev being announced GenSec and the reversion to capitalism starting then.
As for China, they did have a rather long 4T starting in the late 1920s and lasting till 1949. Like Russia their last Qing Saeculum which ended about 1949 was a Mega-crisis.
Because WW2 happened to be a 4T for the US, UK, France, Germany and Japan does not mean it was for Russia or China. One could argue that it shortened Russia's 2T by about five years but that is it. As for China WW2 was icing on the cake which was the Chinese Civil War.
As for 4Ts being shortened, I don't think they can be. A turning is based on which generational archetype is in which phase of life. Unless you plan on claiming that Mao and Stalin had magical powers to prevent children from turning into adults (a power I don't ascribe to either--and I'm the unreformed stalinist here) a turning is going to happen on time wherever the material conditions to set up the S&H saeculum exists.
It really is all mathematics.
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