08-02-2016, 11:23 PM
(08-02-2016, 07:02 PM)radind Wrote:(08-02-2016, 04:55 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(08-02-2016, 01:21 PM)radind Wrote:(07-24-2016, 02:19 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(07-21-2016, 02:30 PM)radind Wrote: Neither Trump nor Clinton represent Biblical ideals. I think that Clinton is a Secular Humanist who advocates the killing of unborn babies. I think that Trump is areligious with no concern for any religion.
Secular Humanists have no real use for the Bible.
We can choose and select which beliefs and behaviors by Clinton or Trump to label as in accord with Biblical ideals, or not. There's plenty to focus on either way.
Many secular humanists have great interest in the Bible. By making blanket statements like that, it seems to me you are not following Jesus' advice. Take the moat out of your own eye.
There are many factors.
A key one to me is the killing of unborn babies supported by Obama and Clinton.
Many "unborn babies" will always be killed by their mothers. The difference is whether we allow the mothers to live afterward or not.
Show me chapter and verse where Jesus says abortion is not allowed.
Otherwise, it is just your interpretation of "Christianity" against mine. It is anyway, of course. Always, anyone's interpretation only. It is moderns who have erred in that respect, taking the Bible literally. Or actually, trying unsuccessfully to do so, and to impose their interpretation on people.
I am not a book chapter verse person.
In my opinion the taking of innocent life is wrong.
No rights for defenseless unborn babies.
Fine, as long as you don't support your decision as "Biblical" or "Christian," which it is not.
Democrats support a woman's right to choose whether or not to bear a child in its 1st trimester. That does not say that the women should choose to have an abortion. It does not support a law to put in jail a woman who makes a choice not to bear a child. I understand that is taking the life of an unborn fetus in its 1st trimester.
Republicans started a war in Iraq for no reason that killed hundreds of thousands of civilians who had done nothing. Republicans say we should have continued that war. These are not unborn fetuses, but real live human beings.
Republicans want to endanger all life on this planet by denying the human causes of climate change, so that oil and coal companies can continue pumping pollution into our air and water. Millions have already died due to their denial policies, which go back 36 years.
These in the minds of most liberals and Democrats and many moderates are more significant "takings of innocent life" than taking the life of an unborn fetus in its first trimester. Especially since if the abortion pill were made available to all, the issue would be off the political table.
And that's not even to mention the gun debate. Or how Republicans cut off people who need financial support in hard times. Or take away health care, and endanger workers and consumers with their laissez faire policies.