The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(01-01-2021, 06:00 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Trump represented progress along several stalled fronts that have been impacting middle America for many years.

Progress? If your idea of progress is having a trade war with China that the Chinese outsmarted. The Chinese slapped import bans on certain American farm commodities  that America's farmers typically supply for exports. To win back the farm vote that about everyone thought that he was going to lose during that trade war he opened the spigot on commodities that ended up with no market so that he could buy their votes back. Many of those commodities ended up either as livestock food (so meat is underpriced), and by flooding rural America with farm subsidies the USA must sell an increase in the national debt to whatever buyer there is. As in China. 

It has long been a conservative tenet that political decisions that buy elections by bleeding the treasury is a shameful deed to be avoided at all costs -- even recessions with high unemployment. Just when we liberals have come to all but completely despise that practice, Donald Trump does that. Donald Trump does not make that right. He may have prevented a landslide loss in the Electoral College instead of the narrower loss that he got... but he did so at a grave price to the treasury.        

Quote:Personally speaking, I could give to shits less about the Democratic fronts and the survival of the Democratic party and its system of preference as a whole. Yes, the Democrats must take advantage of whatever opportunity emerges like it did with the COVID19 crisis and the death of George Floyd because the days of America remaining together and functioning as one country are numbered at this point.

Trump's mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic has now given us a plague that has killed as many people as the city (Anaheim, California) that houses Disney's "Magic Kingdom". It's also the home of the (whatever place-name is used in the title because that seems to change) the Angels baseball team. 

Another way of looking at the death toll from COVID-19... speaking of the Big A of Anaheim... is that the stadium holds about 45,000 people. Fill the stadium seven times (which would be two seven-game World Series in which the Angels and the opposing National League team), and kill all the audience of the paid attendance of those seven games, assuming no duplication of persons attending the games, and you would have less than  the death toll of the Plague of Donald Trump in America. 

I see no reason to believe that the effect of mass death from COVID-19 will be forgotten in America over the next few years. Many Americans are still numbed to the moral stench that is the Trump Presidency... but you can count on Democrats exploiting any connection that any Republican has to Donald Trump. 

Again, I refuse to accept what Stalin said about mass death:

Quote:One death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.  

  

Dammit! I want people to see the humanity behind a grave marker, and I want people to see the wrong in sending someone's body or ashes to a place with such a marker before that person's time. Of all the crimes that I associate with the Trump Administration the worst is negligent homicide. Damn him! Damn him! Damn him!  

     

Quote:You're going to see all kinds of signs of America splitting and moving away from Democratic cities after 4 years of Democrats running rough shot. What happens to them and those DUMB enough to support or cling?

That splintering began with the rise of the Religious Right, people who accepted Pascal's wager that a miserable life in This World is an acceptable price for a wondrous Afterlife, one far better than anything that Disney's "Magic Kingdom" can offer (although it does not offer that for now, being closed due to the pandemic and many jobs there having disappeared). The Republican Party has yet to win over Democratic-leaning cities with promises of union-breaking and huge tax subsidies to attract Big Business to set up sweatshops that might hire people to toil for near-starvation wages that would need welfare subsidies including food aid, Medicaid, and Section 8 housing.  The metro areas that are growing (Boston, New York, Washington, Charlotte, Atlanta, Columbus OH, Miami, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Houston, Denver, Phoenix, Los Angeles, and San Francisco-San Jose all have largely Democratic politics. The states that seems most rapidly veering Republican now are Iowa and Ohio and those because Iowa is not a growth state and Ohio has many dying cities literally losing population because of the decline of manufacturing jobs.   

Quote:Who cares at that point? According to the law, they're old enough which automatically means they're mature enough or wise enough to vote and determine they're own fate these days. I ain't your brother or your daddy and I'm not obligated to continue financially supporting you or serving your interests or the interests of Biden or Obama and I suggest that you find a way to plant that understanding into that head of yours.

Yeah, sure.. .we can all work harder and longer for less, pay more taxes and higher rent so that America's economic elites can live like sultans, but receive that glorious promise of pie-in-the-sky-when-you-die and dread than any slip-up will have you enduring an afterlife resembling a Gulag or a Nazi KZ-lager. Maybe we can all be economic masochists serving economic sadists who see nothing wrong in mass suffering so long as that suffering allows them to live like royalty if owners or aristocracy if the executive elite. 

What you suggest isn't only un-Christian; it is immoral by the ethical standard of any major religion, all of which establish moral standards that rich and poor are alike obliged to follow. You may think it admirable to indulge oneself in the presence of people in extreme need; I consider it obscene.   

Quote:Obama won't be here to save your ass. Obama will be on the first plane out along with every other two bit piece of shit that your reliant upon today. You do their bidding here and I have no sympathy for you whatsoever. I hear there's a new safe place available for the more deplorable Democratic supporters like you. I suggest that you learn to suck up and go along and don't show any signs of being an individual or signs of being your own man so to speak because the cult doesn't like that quality that we possess today.

At this point there is far more room for individual difference within the Democratic party than within the Trump cult. Your cult has far too much cultural baggage for my taste. As for Obama... prepare for more leaders like him, whether conservative or liberal because his style is typical of Reactive generations such as the Liberty, Gilded, and Lost. America has already shown its disdain for flamboyant excess; before it gets a GI-like President reminiscent of Thomas Jefferson or John F. Kennedy it will settle for mellowed sixty-something pols who show respect for budgets, precedent, and protocol. Obama is only the first of this lot.