Will the Mid East tumult come to an end with the 4T?

[Kinser79]

(08-15-2016, 06:12 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 10:06 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: The short answer is no.  The Middle-East and Arab Civilization is on a different saecular format than the West.  The end of our 4T will not have much of an impact on theirs unless it results in a global war involving them.  Much like how WW2 in Russia was a late 1T/2T event and not a 4T event.

True.  The "nations" in the Mideast aren't really valid.  They're nothing but random polygons drawn after WWI by the French and English over what was that part of the Ottoman Empire.  Some of the N. African "nations" were some figment of 1930's Italy's mind.
Next, add climate change and population over breeding and that ensures the place will be a clusterfuck for a long time to come.

By and large, you are correct on the state of those countries. I've often stressed in my posts over the years that Stalin's thesis that Nations are historically constituted groups of people, while at the same time recognizing that states are politically constituted inties. For example In Iraq if the goal is to have nation states the South West would be part of Iran (as they are Shia and Persians rather than Sunni and Arab), the Middle would be either part of Syria or Jordan as they are Sunni Arabs (and have close cultural ties with both countries) and of course in the north where the oil is, would belong to the Kurds in their own Kurdistan (which primarily doesn't exist because the Turks don't want it to, half of the Kurds live on Turkey's real estate).

I would further go on to say that states constituted without regard to the ethnic constitution of the population (except perhaps in polyglot cultures such as the US--America being founded on ideals rather than an ethnic make up) would be destined to result in a clusterfuck without the imposition of order through some manner of imperialism. Climate change only makes an existing problem worse. As for over-breeding, I have a solution for that, literacy. Educated women have fewer children generally, and education would lead to industrialization which turns children from additional farm labor into luxuries.