I have a feeling that today (or yesterday) is probably a huge generational shift.

[David Horn]

(01-16-2021, 04:12 PM)mamabug Wrote: I agree democrats are becoming the party of big business, in the global sense of the word, and represent almost a flip-side (not opposite) of a fascist economy with the same government regulation of means of production and tacit security of monopolies, while asserting an anti-social-Darwinist position that alleges to favor the weak over the strong.  There is definitely a faction of the Republican party that is willing to join them, mostly establishment Republicans who would prefer to remain the loyal opposition and get paid than actually do what their constituents want.  I'm not sure, however, how many Republican voters would be happy to move over the Democrat camp.

Both major parties are fully enthrall to the business community, and have been for a long time.  The GOP was birthed in that mode, and hasn't swayed a bit.  The Dems entered quietly with Carter, then joined full-on and noisily with WJC.  It's one of the reasons Hillary took a beating in a race she should have won.  So no, there is no major party of "We the People".  Trump used a distorted image of that to win in 2016, but he never delivered on any of it.  The real question: which of the two parties (if either) will decide the money is in the business community, but the votes are elsewhere and move toward economic liberalism. Trump and his minions are proto-fascists, and mainline Republicans show zero interest. That leaves the small but feisty LW faction in the Democratic Party with the job, assuming they can find a way to do it.