The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Classic-Xer]

(01-21-2021, 12:12 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(01-19-2021, 11:47 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Slavery has been resolved and Jim Crow has been resolved. This dispute that exists is a cultural and economic and class related dispute between American culture and the Liberal/Democratic elite for the most part over issues directly related to them and the use of their power and the issues related to urban Democratic culture which has a lot of internal problems and ain't been looking so great these days/lately. So, what are you going to do about all the racists blacks and groups of Marxist believers and the corrupt system that exists in Washington DC? How are you going to reprogram and reeducate all them and reverse the coarse and change the beliefs that you and others more or less seem to share, support and continue to advance and instill up to this point? You can't, I don't see how you can at this point. So, there's going to be a major clash and a national split that's going to result in the Democrats being left holding the bag and left to be over run by the barbarians.

We are going through another period of reducing racial oppression, such as the US Civil War and the civil rights movement.  The result now will crate another improvement.  There may or may not be another time where it becomes an issue.  Racism in America is stubborn.

Racism, sexism and elitism have created an extreme division of wealth which will have to be addressed in the near future.  These are all part of the class structure which benefits white males and long time residents at the expense of women, the minorities and the working man.  It is about time to push back.

There are no Marxist believers of note in DC.  I’m not worried about it.  That is your delusion.  You seem to equate helping the American people with autocratic failures.  You seem to think the Constitution doesn’t include as one of its purposes to ‘promote the general Welfare’.

For a long time I have been predicting a regeneracy and the fading of conservative values.  Worldviews are stubborn.  They do not change unless something like the destruction of Atlanta in the US Civil War or Hiroshima in World War II.  The worldviews must fail blatantly before people are ready to evaluate them.  Such a failure of values generally occurs only in a crisis, causing many people to change values together.  

If you combined the COVID deaths, the economic ruin resulting, the Black Lives Matter protests and the Capitol Riots together, as of just a few weeks ago It seemed obvious that these things combined hadn’t reached the Atlanta / Hiroshima level of impact.  A lot of people still clung to the conservative values.

Today?  Trump had trouble finding people to attend his goodbye at Andrews.  There is no support for the insurrectionists, even among the conservatives.  The insurrectionists themselves did not show up at Andrews, waving the flags they waved on January 6, showing support for Trump.  Trump was diminished, depressed, alone.

Were the various problems at last adding up to an Atlanta or Hiroshima?  Were Biden’s holding of a national mourning, his rejection of anti science, his support for civil rights, his attempts to restore the economy, his condemnation of politicians and media lying, at last adding up to a doubt of the conservative worldview?  It is too soon to celebrate, but my long time prediction of a failure of conservative values seems to be starting.  

Not everyone considers the failures of conservative values as having added up to cause an honest reevaluation.  Not everyone will.  But enough.

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Watching MSNBC tonight, one of the guest experts was a doctor from Boston University.  She mentioned that Fenway Park was being used as a COVID vaccination center.  Now, the show was being produced in 30 Rock, in New York City.  There was almost an objection.  After consideration, it was considered allowable under the circumstances to mention Fenway Park favorably.  

Normalcy?

The Democrats are directly participating in some acts of racial profiling and racial oppression right now. I'm not concerned about it at the moment knowing the country is about 70% percent white these day. To be honest, I don't have a problem with whites becoming more racial oriented and scaring the shit out of racist blacks with racist symbols and calling them niggers and so forth. You reap what you sow applies. You seem to be buying into the media hype and seem to be placing your faith in a 78 year old Democrat who has dementia who should have never been elected in the first place and a token VP who has no right to be in the position that she is in either. Aren't you the one who believe systems have to fail for beliefs/values to be discarded? Well, it looks like the Democrats are perfectly positioned to do that right now. At least Pence was honest enough to admit on a national stage that he really had no right to be in his position either. I don't know why the GOP establishment is sticking their necks out and placing what's left of their party at risk being destroyed on their behalf. I assume that their eyes and ears and minds work as well as ours and they have access to the same information as we do as well. I assume that there is a helluva lot more money involved in their decisions than there is involved with our decisions. I assume they can read the writing on the wall and understand its over for them anyway at this point and the only option left is cling to the Democrats.