The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(01-23-2021, 12:30 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(01-21-2021, 02:19 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 11:11 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I'll make it easy for you to understand core American values, how many Americans are willing to fight and die to keep the American Constitution and the American system in place? How many Democratic people are willing to die to stop climate change or die for abortion or die for illegal immigration or die for fascism or communism/socialism or die for the world or die for Joe Biden or his token VP or die for the Democratic party these days?

The blacks have been free for over a hundred and fifty years and completely free (no longer legally separated in some states) for nearly sixty year. Women have been free for about a hundred and completely free for nearly sixty years. The gays and lesbians are free as well. As a matter of fact, the American country is so free that there is little to no need for an American left these days. That's the progress that you don't see and the reason why we're nowhere at the moment with the fate of the Democrats placed in their own hands right now.

Your grip on history is lacking.  Jim Crow was still around officially in the '80s, and still is around today, though more subtle. If I'm black, I always pay more for credit, and have a harder time buying a house in a good neighborhood. Redlining is gone ... but it isn't. That's only one of a hundred topics we can explore on this topic.

I wasn't alive during Jim Crow. I know there was a lot of black vs white during my preschool years. I also know my parent left St Paul and moved to the suburbs during those years. If I had a son who got his tooth knocked out by some ghetto kid at school and a daughter who was beaten up be a group of them too, I'd pull the plug and move to a better place too. I'm glad that I'm not a milliennial who forked out a chunk on a house in Minneapolis who is stuck with a mortgage on a house that is worth less right now.

Well, I was born a bit more than ten years after the Holocaust ended, but I can certainly draw some conclusions. As someone almost half German or Swiss in ancestry I must be careful to choose connections to Germany carefully. OK, Bach is wonderful and Nazis are dreadful. I am reasonably certain that if I look carefully enough in genealogy that leads into WWII-era Germany I would find seventh-cousins or so who perpetrated the Holocaust. I have no desire to discover that I am a seventh cousin twice removed to Herrmann Goering. 

OK... OK... OK. As a German-American (or about half so) I probably have more cultural connections to east-European Jews than do practically any other gentiles. Morals? Take away the kashrut dietary laws and Judaism is almost pure morality. If I had to choose between converting to Judaism or becoming a Nazi I would convert to Judaism because Judaism requires far fewer moral or cultural changes. When I moved from Michigan to the San Francisco Bay Area because of a transfer of my father, I found that the people to which I most easily got along were Jews and East Asians. No, I am not half-Japanese, Korean, or Chinese. The other half is largely English, Welsh, Dutch, French (Huguenot) or Scots-Irish. 

...That you were not around during Jim Crow does not exempt you from finding it an abomination  any more than being born after the Holocaust exempts me from finding it an abomination. I have no use for slavery, religious bigotry, or witch-killings. 

Are black thugs any nicer than white thugs? I have been a substitute teacher, and I have never seen the school administration show any tolerance for thuggish behavior. Your precious white children are more at risk from white thugs (yes, there are white gangs, and they are just as nasty as non-white gangs) because those gangs want to recruit your kids to join them and do thuggish deeds. 

You do not want your sons joining Proud Bois or Boogaloo Boys. Really.