02-01-2021, 01:00 PM
(02-01-2021, 12:26 PM)mamabug Wrote:(02-01-2021, 11:57 AM)David Horn Wrote: That truly may be "the point of our Constitution", but the document was written by upper class elites to serve their interests - especially the interest of slavery. Excuse me if I fail to see that as a positive model. During the Agricultural Age it may have been justified to some extent, but that time is long past. Today, it's antiquated to the point of near ineffectuality. I agree that democracy must allow for give and take, but how can that occur when the conservative side of the spectrum is so totally overrepresented in both the Senate and the Electoral College -- and the imbalance is getting larger.
Since the election of 2000, the GOP has won a plurality only once in the Presidential race: 2004. It has won the office in 3 of the 6 elections. At the moment, the Senate is evenly split, but the Dems represent 41 Million more Americans than the GOP. Asking for additional consideration is a bit cynical, don't you think?
So you advocate the 'two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner' model of governance?
That seems more inline with your view than mine. Actually, your view is one wolf and two sheep, and the wolf wins by default every time. If the majority is quashed repeatedly overtime, it will find an alternative. I mean, the Righteous Minority chose violence when it didn't get it's way this time. At least the majority has objective right on its side. Note: the violence tends to be on the right, almost exclusively.
mamabug Wrote:If the basic argument is that the system is broken because it is intended for the majority to have to compromise with the minority then I don't know what to say anymore.
America, it was a beautiful idea while it lasted.
No, the argument is that the minority has excessive power, and the majority is rarely able to overcome the bias. Look at recent past history. Reagan left a mess for Clinton, who fixed it. Then the electorate, in it's wisdom, elected the first minority President (GWB) who left a mess for his replacement. Obama patched things together -- even as the GOP opposed every move -- and the electorate then elected yet another minority President to break everything again. In short, the GOP gets to run the show as a minority party, but the Democrats get the task of clean-up on isle 5, but never the chance to enact their vision. If majorities rejected them, then that's politics -- but that's not the case.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.