02-02-2021, 03:52 PM
(02-01-2021, 06:59 PM)mamabug Wrote:(02-01-2021, 02:04 PM)David Horn Wrote: I think she was looking at violence, and I can't see that from the left either.
Really not sure how many times I have to repeat that I live in the heart of antifa country.
Well, maybe a bit to the North. More like the antifa commuter suburbs.
The real problem with radicals on the left: they aren't really organized. Groups like BLM are real organizations, but they are political and not a threat. Antifa is only a concept (per the FBI and Homeland Security). So yes, they show up to provide security for leftist rallies and demonstrations, but it's all ad hoc. Actors on the right: not so much. So its apples and oranges here.
mamabug Wrote:Whether they are a legitimate threat? Not sure. DNC politicians have given them far too much cover and allowed them to build up an infrastructure which they export to other areas of the country. On the whole, I think the establishment treats them as a rabid Rottweiler they can let off the leash every so often as a tool against the GOP but then expects to put them quietly back in their cage for another 4 years. I don't yet know if they are strong enough to resist going back.
You think 'the establishment' controls this? Personally, I don't just doubt that. I thoroughly disbelieve it unless shown proof to the contrary. All movement type groups are thorns in the sides of 'the establishment'. That's their role in life.
mamabug Wrote:OTOH, if there is one thing I've learned in the last couple weeks it is just how thoroughly the establishment can use police forces to crush a group once it sets its mind to it.
Protests? Yes. Riots? Not so much. Waco, Ruby Ridge and the Capitol pretty much prove that riot run until they stop.
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