02-04-2021, 06:23 PM
(02-04-2021, 03:19 PM)mamabug Wrote:(02-02-2021, 03:52 PM)David Horn Wrote: The real problem with radicals on the left: they aren't really organized. Groups like BLM are real organizations, but they are political and not a threat. Antifa is only a concept (per the FBI and Homeland Security). So yes, they show up to provide security for leftist rallies and demonstrations, but it's all ad hoc. Actors on the right: not so much. So its apples and oranges here.
Communism is only a concept, too, so I guess Russia had nothing to worry about.
No, Russia had Leninism, followed by Stalinism. Neither had much to do with Marx, though they borrowed his rhetoric and some of his economics.
mamabug Wrote:Go do some research on them from people not on their vetted list of friendly journalists and then come back and tell me they are just a loose, non-organized set of individuals who just happen to show up to provide 'protection.' I've seen them in person and they are not anything like that but, as the youth say, it is not my job to educate you.
Do your own research. If the FBI and Homeland Security, uptight organizations that they are, can't find an organization to cite, I'll take their word for it.
mamabug Wrote:We can discuss this more in depth when you can tell me what they mean by 'fascism' and what their official stance on non-violence is.
They tend to favor the oppressed over their oppressors, and reserve the right to define who, what and which. Since they tend to be loosely affiliated, the range of opinions will be rather wide. 'They' have no opinion on violence either, because there is no 'they'. I'm sure there are violent people calling themselves Antifa, and there are others who get their internal marching orders from anti-violence. To be honest, they are a bit of a conundrum.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.