The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(02-20-2021, 12:18 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(02-20-2021, 09:42 AM)David Horn Wrote: I see a put-up-or-shut-up effort building. It's obvious that we have a nascent anarchist movement in this country, that has no problem using firearms to make its point.  We also have a SCOTUS tilted as far right as the one from the late 19th century.  Someone will get a case in front of them that will force them to settle the issue of just how much the right to bear arms allows.  Depending on the result, it will be game-on, with the losing ideology turning up the heat on the issue.  My guess: the right will be expanded a lot, and the already growing majority opposing that POV will finally organize to change it.  Successfully?  TBD.

I suspect there is a put-up-or-shut-up effort pending, but I see it with a different twist.

The movement is not anarchist so much as racist.  The reds are not so much against rights or democracy as much as they are against minorities having rights and a minority dominant democracy.  They are used to being ever so privileged.

I agree SCOTUS is learning hard right, but do not think they will go as far as nullifying the Bill of Rights as the Jim Crow SCOTUS did.  I would not be surprised by a ‘standard model’ case ruling something totally unacceptable to the blues and the blues giving up on the Jim Crow presidents to negotiate a compromise.  Among other things, they could redefine who is in the militia then regulate the heck out of the militia.  In combination with the red belief in the original meaning of the Second, this would escalate things to a point that there might be real talk.

I do see the Second as having room for a decent compromise if both sides were willing to compromise.  That won’t happen as long as the blues cling to what is left of the Jim Crow precedents, and the reds cling to the original meaning of the Second.  A new Second with a guaranteed individual right to keep and bear civilian arms with a clear definition of the difference between a civilian and military arm could be written, but it doesn’t have a chance as long as both sides hope for their extreme points of view.

I agree such a compromise is the best we can hope for in the short run. Even that would require a big defeat for the Republican Party. That does not mean I give up on my more-extreme hope. Americans just need to start becoming a more-advanced people again, instead of behind the rest of the world, as we have fallen in the neo-liberal era. Until that happens we will be stuck on the gun issue, and a lot else besides.