02-23-2021, 12:04 PM
(02-23-2021, 05:50 AM)Einzige Wrote:(02-23-2021, 04:08 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-22-2021, 09:10 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Discussing capitalism with Einzige on the partisan divide page. Does that mean Marxism is one side of the divide now? (I know the Republicans and Classic Xer say so.....)The Democratic side is about half Marxist (quasi socialist) these days. You're a Democratic supporter, you should know that by now. You should also know that oil and water don't mix.
No they aren't. A small handful of people affiliated with the Democratic Socialists of America claim to he Marxist but what they advocate for is milquetoast social democracy (Richaed Wolff et al.). This has the effect of channeling left discontent into the Democratic Party, the graveyard of social movements.
Marxism is wage labor abolitionist. Welfare and unions ain't it.
So how do you pay people to do the nasty work necessary for making the system work? Does the system simply pay people in the rewards of its choosing even down to the sort of victuals that people get to ear and the housing in which they get to live (most likely bleak tenements)? Consumer choice has value.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.