06-01-2021, 07:55 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-01-2021, 07:57 PM by Bob Butler 54.)
(06-01-2021, 12:37 PM)Einzige Wrote: Capitalism has nothing to do with character independent from all other social relations. There are capitalists - not many, but some - who are indeed kind, philanthropic and charitable from personal conviction and not because it benefits them in the form of public relations or tax wirte-offs.
This is also completely irrelevant to the actual, systemic functions of capitalism.
The basic problem though is not with capitalism or Marxism. Human elites tend to gather power to themselves. The Republicans, Democrats, Marxists, Fascists and even royalists all had that problem. The powers that be identified with each other rather than the people. Many come to turn themselves against the people directly, which is the Republican's current problem.
The answer is to identify with a mechanism which give power to the people. To date, representative democracy and elections seems to be the dominant alternative. I will occasionally remind people of computer networked democracy, of giving power directly to the people, rather than the representative system which forces the people to count on the benefit of the representatives, who seem to inevitably identify with the elites.
I keep asking you to identify some such mechanism to prevent the latest bunch of pseudo Marxists from following the path of Lenin, Stalin and Mao. You have consistently failed to do so. Until you do, you and any other pseudo Marxists will be rejected by the people you count on to commit violence for your own sake.
There is a saying that begins "fooled me once, shame on you." How does it end?
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.