06-16-2021, 02:13 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-16-2021, 02:16 PM by Eric the Green.)
(06-16-2021, 12:09 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(06-16-2021, 09:15 AM)David Horn Wrote:(06-15-2021, 05:32 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:(06-15-2021, 03:12 AM)Captain Genet Wrote: In the days following the Capitol Putsch, media reported Trump will be prosecuted in Georgia for attempting to change the election results in Georgia: Prosecute Donald Trump. His Georgia call is enough evidence - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)
So what's going on with this issue?
Georgia and the LA times might as well be in different countries, for how much they understand each other.
I would agree that large swaths of Georgia and LA are in different countries, but Atlanta and LA aren't that different.
Both states are divided. It wasn't that long ago that CA was a red state. Both have large cities and large rural areas. It is just that now Atlanta and other urban areas are beginning to turn Georgia blue. The two states illustrate as well as anything the problem of dividing America geographically.
The problem seems to be that large parts of rural red America seem to prefer racism to democracy....
The most viable solution to the current national divide is for one side, preferably the blue side, to win well enough so that the red side no longer can shape national policy, and they can lash out and be suppressed in the 4T or learn to go along in the 1T. Probably the solution to the disproportionate red power of today in the senate and electoral college is demographic; more northern liberals and more southern and African immigrants moving into the reddish purple states. Virginia, Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico have already become blue because of these trends, just as CA did back in the 1990s. AZ and GA flipped in 2020, although the Republicans still control them and are trying to keep these new folks from voting. North Carolina and Florida seem possible, but are trending red. Texas is a possibility in the future. Meanwhile Ohio and Iowa have turned red and seem to have little prospect of being purple again. The upper midwest remains barely blue.
Could the USA be divided, if it comes to that? It is unlikely, but still possible, and interesting to speculate about. Some states are more rural-red, with weakly blue or red urban areas, while others have larger and more blue urban areas as well as strong rural red areas. I suspect states would have to vote to choose which way to go, and that they could. In other cases, parts of states could split off from the rest and join the other side. After all this is decided, a migration trend already happening since the 1990s could be speeded up; that is, blue people migrating to blue states, and red people migrating to red states. A kind of voluntary, political and ethnic cleansing process.
Contiguous red and blue areas would work best, and this would have to be decided too. I see one division solution as the north-eastern and western coastal and perhaps some desert southwest states and perhaps a few northern midwestern states joining up with Canada to make a new contiguous country, or becoming two contiguous and allied blue countries, while the rural red "heartland" of the current USA would be easy to put together.
It doesn't mean that these two or three new American states would have to be at war all the time, after separation, and could even make trade deals and military alliances. On the other hand, more walls might be put up by the red heartland country. Maybe at first to keep immigrants out, but increasingly, as the red country suffers its inevitable further decline, to keep their young and restless folks in.