Why is it taking so much time to bring Trump to court?

[Eric the Green]

(06-17-2021, 02:31 PM)Captain Genet Wrote:

(06-16-2021, 01:52 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I don't know what Odinism is. Is that another of some kind of cyber cult for millennials and Gen Zers?

If you mean Norse paganism, I suppose that could be some alternative for people whom the Evangelicals expel from their religion, but I don't see any inherent racism in most forms of paganism or neo-paganism. It tends otherwise. As for Russian Orthodoxy, isn't that just the more original form of the Christian Church, and therefore quite as Biblical as Evangelicals?

Odinism is a racist variety Norse paganism:
https://odinia.org/what-is-odinism/

I don't know why but many white nationalists like Russian orthodoxy. Possibly because of their general infatuation with Putin's Russia. Or maybe because unlike Catholicism and Protestantism, it doesn't have many non-white followers.
https://religiondispatches.org/how-ortho...tionalism/

I always saw Evangelicalism as purely Biblical, while Catholicism and Orthodoxy are also influenced by Greco-Roman philosophy.

Bob Butler 54 Wrote:I see yet another set of protestant groups splitting off the established racist sects. There are enough protestant sects, and you change along the lines of the controversial doctrine.

Sadly I agree. There is no one unified organization for Evangelicals, so if one pastor expels all racists, there will always be another who will be happy to bless them.

What I find interesting is this: Odinia International [1] is an Odinist religious organization which has chapters mainly on the U.S. mainland and in the United Kingdom.

I don't see any racism in their doctrine. In the page you linked, they wrote:

"we have no concept of the innate evil of mankind, or of women being inferior to men, no hatred of science, reason or truth, no tradition of holy war to force our religion on others, no proselytizing, no belief that seeking knowledge is a sin, and no separation of God and nature."

That all seems fine. But what I find is that this group is influenced by contemporary neo-liberalism that has ruled the US and the UK for the last 40 years. There is a swipe at supposed Christian "Communism" and this group appeals to self-reliance and merit and is opposed to inherent economic equality. So while neo-liberalism, as thus expressed by this group, has closet racist sympathies because it opposes welfare, and poorer ethnic groups tend to be on welfare more often, it is not specifically racist. Meanwhile, actual people in Norway and Scandinavia today are quite pro-socialist and liberal in their views; in fact, they are the most politically-advanced folks on the planet today.

So the problem with this supposed Norse Paganism called "Odinism" is that it is not Norse, and not ancient, but current anglo-american, and thus influenced by contemporary conservative politics in the US and UK.

"I always saw Evangelicalism as purely Biblical, while Catholicism and Orthodoxy are also influenced by Greco-Roman philosophy."

But that isn't true; the traditional Christian demoninations (Catholicism and Orthodox) are very Biblical, and they uphold the traditional creed, and if there is some influence from Greco-Roman philosophy, that is no reason to knock them or suspect them of any problems either-- certainly not racism. Fundamentalist evangelicals are not Biblical, they are literalists. Actual Christians whether ancient or modern see the Bible as often metaphorical and symbolic, not literal.

The evangelicals are the ones with the problems. They are guilty of many of the charges laid upon them by the Odinists.

This week the Southern Baptist Convention narrowly elected a leader committed to dealing with and healing racism. The SBC held together though and did not split.