modernism and post-modernism

[Eric the Green]

Quote:Captain Genet Wrote:

Quote:(06-16-2021, 02:33 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
Myself, I can forgive the millennial seaculum for its tech obsession since it brought a new counter culture (as well as cultural crudeness) Smile

I suspect the tech obsession became a thing because humanities were overrun by postmodernism and other crazy Leftist/Inclusivist stuff, so rational people wanted to keep out of it. Of course, modernism is not going to die. China has mostly a modernist culture, and is the world's biggest economy. In the new saeculum, I expect America and Western Europe to become more modernist again after the silly postmodern fad dies out.

Regular people going into space? Maybe during the next 3T, that would be fitting for neo-Lost adventurers to have an awesome interplanetary youth.

https://www.futuretimeline.net/21stcentu...e-elevator
https://www.futuretimeline.net/21stcentu...9.htm#nasa

Myself, I don't think of post-modern as a fad, or even a philosophy, but a condition of our times for which the word is used. Modern progress as our most important product has lost its lustre for many people, because it threatens the environment and impairs the spirit by turning us into machines.

But, I think there will always be technology and new developments. The question is for how much longer will it be seen as the definition of "progress"? In the post-modern view, real progress means greater freedom from authoritarian conformity. That has been part of the idea of "progress" since its beginning in the 18th century, anyway. Social progress and spiritual or artistic development are more important than tech progress, and toward the end of this century I predict this will dawn on more people. So in that sense, post-modernism is just a gateway to increased awareness of the limits of tech progress. But tech has its needed uses as well, so it's not going away.

Humanities did not go away because of Leftist/Inclusivist stuff, and such stuff is perfectly rational. It's the best area on your diagram, and most academics these days are predominantly progressive because the alternative out in red rural America is so horrific. In any case, the reason humanities has declined is precisely the tech obsession, so you got that backwards. Politicians and pundits no longer view higher education as a place to develop the ability to express, create and debate ideas or to learn to read, write, speak, understand society, investigate or draw, etc., but to get a good tech job or get a business and finance career going.

I think space travel will definitely become a tourist adventure for those who can afford it. It will never be cheap, and probably never fully safe, but many more people will afford it than can do so today. But fun, thrilling and spectacular as it is, is this really what makes the Apollo program the greatest thing since the invention of agriculture and writing, as you suggest? Without ET contact and knowledge of The Other Side, space travel and exploration yields few other benefits.

The route to a sustainable and prosperous future on Earth lies here on Earth-- in progressive politics, conservation, innovative eco-tech, human and civil rights, urban planning, reform of agriculture, support for culture, and lifestyle arrangements here on Earth, and those who study humanities and general higher education grasp this fact much better than those who don't, as election polls and returns clearly show.