now that I think about it, we were quite the 4T nation for a while (very briefly)

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(09-27-2021, 09:43 AM)AspieMillennial Wrote:

(09-27-2021, 12:08 AM)galaxy Wrote:

(09-25-2021, 01:20 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: (the Millennial Generation is clearly Civic by now)

I'm glad someone else has noticed this. The Millennial Generation has transitioned during the last few years, and is much more obviously Civic now than it was previously. Of course it always was, but in 2014 one had to look much more closely and carefully to see it. Now it's impossible to ignore. I think the peak Civicness is probably those born between 1988 and 1996 or so. Perhaps the seemingly "stepwise" transition into this turning has stratified the generation a bit. Those born before 1988 are noticeably less collectivist and conformist, while those born 1996 and later are activists, with a general "darker" mood (that is, more cynical and less optimistic, but still just as collective), which might be partly responsible for the fact that wider society still perceives the Millennial generation as ending around 1997 or so (with the incorrect designation of memory and understanding of 9/11 as a generational fault line, rather than what it is, an intragenerational* divide).

It's clear that the 1988-1996 group are the ones "enforcing the rules of the new order." Or, at least, they're by far the most enthusiastic about it.

I hate the new order. What do I do about it? Every solution being proposed to this mess are things I hate.

Well, the Boomers were divided in a similar fashion. While the early wave cohorts tended to be more idealistic and feel warm and generous toward others, the later wave by contrast were disciples of Reagan conservatism and ushered in the modern "creed of greed" which seems to still be in vogue today. Elsewhere on this forum I posted about the Occupy movement at the time of its tenth anniversary. While unsuccessful in the long run, it did, albeit for a brief period of time, return us to a  more idealistic mindset. A YouTube posted I recently viewed as a commemorative of the movement seemed to indicate that it did triumph in one respect, and that is that it created an awareness of the sharp divide between the rich and everyone else with the "we are the 99 percent" slogan. Should have spawned greater political change though. The backlash prevented both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren from obtaining higher office.