now that I think about it, we were quite the 4T nation for a while (very briefly)

[David Horn]

(09-29-2021, 12:23 PM)nguyenivy Wrote:

(09-27-2021, 09:43 AM)AspieMillennial Wrote: I hate the new order. What do I do about it? Every solution being proposed to this mess are things I hate.

Isn't the 'new order' not established until the 1T? We may not yet even know what the new order is yet. If we still have the rest of this decade (2020s) in a 4T, then there is still plenty of time for new norms to be established. I think given we are still in the pandemic, it is too early for a new order to be in place that will stick. We'll see once the pandemic is over how much of a new order in society we really have. I thought for instance that remote work was going to stick around as a permanent thing only to see many offices requiring people back on-site now (just with a vaccine in them + maybe masks for now). Society still seems to be trying to revert to pre-pandemic conventions even in instances where the new option is easier or higher quality. Remote work also allows less pollution from commuting, which ties into the other big issue we have: climate change.

I agree. The 1T is still arguable on many levels, and your example of remote work is trenchant. The last 1T was unexpected by the very people who created it, and it was the GI Bill and American dominance of the world's economy that made that true. What wil be the equivalent in the next 1T? Any wild guesses out there?